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Zappa was raised as a Catholic, but later became an atheist.
 
Zappa was raised as a Catholic, but later became an atheist.
  
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''Gail looked at me and said, "What do we put?" I said, "Musician."''''  (FZ in [[The Real Frank Zappa Book]], page 216.)
 
''Gail looked at me and said, "What do we put?" I said, "Musician."''''  (FZ in [[The Real Frank Zappa Book]], page 216.)
  
Zappa was very critical of organized religion and the power and influence it has on politics and people. During the 1980s he wrote several satirical songs about the Moral Majority and televangelists like [[Jerry Falwell]], [[Robert Tilton]], [[Pat Robertson]], [[Jim Bakker]] and [[Jimmy Swaggart]].
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Zappa was very critical of organized religion and the power and influence it has on politics and people. During the 1980s he wrote several satirical songs bashing televangelists [[Jerry Falwell]], [[Robert Tilton]], [[Pat Robertson]], [[Jim Bakker]] and [[Jimmy Swaggart]].
  
 
''"They tried to make me go to Catholic school, too. I lasted a very short time. When the penguin came after me with a ruler, I was out of there. (...)I still went to church regularly, though, until I was eighteen years old. Then suddenly, the light bulb went on over my head. All the mindless mobidity and discipline was pretty sick – bleeding this, painful that and no meat on Friday. What is this shit? (...) Well, I think it was possible to do what I've done only because I escaped the bondage of being a devout believer. To be a good member of the congregation, ultimately you have to stop thinking. The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The fruit that was forbidden was on the tree of knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could still be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions."''  ([[Frank Zappa. Interview in Playboy]], 1993)  
 
''"They tried to make me go to Catholic school, too. I lasted a very short time. When the penguin came after me with a ruler, I was out of there. (...)I still went to church regularly, though, until I was eighteen years old. Then suddenly, the light bulb went on over my head. All the mindless mobidity and discipline was pretty sick – bleeding this, painful that and no meat on Friday. What is this shit? (...) Well, I think it was possible to do what I've done only because I escaped the bondage of being a devout believer. To be a good member of the congregation, ultimately you have to stop thinking. The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The fruit that was forbidden was on the tree of knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could still be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions."''  ([[Frank Zappa. Interview in Playboy]], 1993)  
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But, despite his objections against organized religion and the fact that he didn't believe in God or Jesus, he tolerated religious people.  
 
But, despite his objections against organized religion and the fact that he didn't believe in God or Jesus, he tolerated religious people.  
  
<blockquote''>''"One of the misconceptions about evangelicals in the U.S. is that they're all as extreme as Swaggart, Falwell and Robertson. They're not. Most of them just want to worship at their local church. They don't give a shit about those guys on television -- they think they're clowns and that what they do cheapens everyone's religious experience. On this, we definitely agree."''</blockquote>
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''"One of the misconceptions about evangelicals in the U.S. is that they're all as extreme as Swaggart, Falwell and Robertson. They're not. Most of them just want to worship at their local church. They don't give a shit about those guys on television -- they think they're clowns and that what they do cheapens everyone's religious experience. On this, we definitely agree."'' — [[Biography|Frank Zappa]], ''[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]''.</div>  
<div align=right>— [[Frank Zappa]], ''[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]''.</div>  
 
 
 
==See also==
 
 
 
* [[Church of American Secular Humanism]]
 
* [[Church of the SubGenius]]
 
* [[The Holy Land]]
 
* [[Faith]]
 
* [[Once A Catholic]]
 
* [[Holy Rollers]]
 
* [[Holy Terror]]
 
* [[The Last Temptation Of Christ]]
 
* [[Moral Majority]]
 
* [[Mormons]]
 
* [[Salvation For Sale]]
 
* [[The World Church]]
 
* [[Keith Moon]] plays a nun in [[200 Motels (The Film)]]
 
* A nun can be seen in the music video of [[You Are What You Is (The Track)]]
 
* [[Dio Fa]]
 
* [[Warning/Guarantee-Sticker]]
 
* [[Anti-Defamation League Of The B'nai B'rith]]
 
* [["Congress Shall Make No Law . . ."]] features tracks with titles referring to the Ten Commandments.
 
  
 
==Songs about religion or referencing religious topics==
 
==Songs about religion or referencing religious topics==
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(Not included are songs with occasional exclamations or swear words like ''"Good God", "Oh my God"'' or ''"goddamn"''.)  
 
(Not included are songs with occasional exclamations or swear words like ''"Good God", "Oh my God"'' or ''"goddamn"''.)  
  
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* [[200 Years Old]]: ''"Like she had true religion/Just like she had true religion."''
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* [[The Adventures Of Greggery Peccary]]: ''"What had God wrought?"''
 
* [[Amen]]
 
* [[Amen]]
* [[Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk]]
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* [[Be-Bop Tango]] (Of the Old Jazz-Men's Church)
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* [[Blessed Relief]]
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* The Christian hymn [[Bringing In The Sheaves]] is quoted in [[Friendly Little Finger]] and [[Wino Man - With Dr. John Routine]].
 
* [[Catholic Girls]]
 
* [[Catholic Girls]]
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* [[Church Chat]]
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* [[Cosmik Debris]]: ''"He said for a nominal service charge/I could reach nirvana tonight!"'' and ''"what kind of a guru are you anyway?"''
 
* [[Cucamonga (The Track)]]: ''"Near a Holy-Roller Church"''
 
* [[Cucamonga (The Track)]]: ''"Near a Holy-Roller Church"''
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* [[Dancin' Fool]] and [[Stick It Out]]: ''"What, you're Jewish?"''
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* [[Dumb All Over]]
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* [[Dummy Up]]: ''"A true Zen saying. Nothing is what I want."''
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* [[Eat That Question]] was originally titled ''"Eat That Christian"''.
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* [[Father O'Blivion]]
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* [[A Few Moments With Brother A. West]]
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* [[God Bless America]]
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* [[Have You Ever Heard Their Band?]]: ''"I just thought that before we just thought of these things . . . ya know, like just off the wall and out of our heads. No, that's religious superstition."''
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* [[Heavenly Bank Account]]
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* [[Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel]]
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* [[The Idiot Bastard Son]]: ''"All the time he would spend/at the church he'd attend"''
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* [[Jesus Thinks You're A Jerk]]
 
* [[Jewish Princess]]
 
* [[Jewish Princess]]
* [[Church Chat]]
 
 
* [[Jonestown]]
 
* [[Jonestown]]
* [[Your Mouth]]: ''"Your mouth is your religion"''
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* [[The Massive Improve'lence]]
* [[The Idiot Bastard Son]]: ''"All the time he would spend/at the church he'd attend"''
 
 
* [[The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing]]
 
* [[The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing]]
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* [[Muffin Man]]: ''"Nothing so exalted on the face of God's grey earth as that prince of foods: the muffin!"''
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* [[Nasal Retentive Calliope Music]]: ''"God. It's God. I see God."''
 
* [[A Nun Suit Painted On Some Old Boxes]]
 
* [[A Nun Suit Painted On Some Old Boxes]]
* [[Dumb All Over]]
 
* [[200 Years Old]]: ''"Like she had true religion/Just like she had true religion."''
 
 
* [[Penis Dimension]] ''"Weird twisted anxieties that could force a person to become (...) a Jesuit monk."''  
 
* [[Penis Dimension]] ''"Weird twisted anxieties that could force a person to become (...) a Jesuit monk."''  
* [[Dancin' Fool]] and [[Stick It Out]]: ''"What, you're Jewish?"''
 
* [[A Token Of My Extreme]]
 
* [[God Bless America]]
 
* [[Blessed Relief]]
 
* [[Be-Bop Tango]] (Of the Old Jazz-Men's Church)
 
* The Christian hymn [[Bringing In The Sheaves]] is quoted in [[Friendly Little Finger]] and [[Wino Man - With Dr. John Routine]].
 
 
* [[The Poodle Lecture]] mentions God
 
* [[The Poodle Lecture]] mentions God
* [[Sofa]] mentions God
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* [[The Rejected Mexican Pope Leaves The Stage]]
* [[Nasal Retentive Calliope Music]]: ''"God. It's God. I see God."''
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* [[Religious Superstition]]
* [[Muffin Man]]: ''"Nothing so exalted on the face of God's grey earth as that prince of foods: the muffin!"''
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* [[Sofa No. 2]] mentions God
 
* [[Soft-Sell Conclusion]]: ''"Worshipping together in the church of your choice".''  
 
* [[Soft-Sell Conclusion]]: ''"Worshipping together in the church of your choice".''  
* [[The Rejected Mexican Pope Leaves The Stage]]
 
* [[Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel]]
 
* [[A Few Moments With Brother A. West]]
 
* [[Dummy Up]]: ''"A true Zen saying. Nothing is what I want."''
 
 
* [[St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast]]
 
* [[St. Alphonzo's Pancake Breakfast]]
* [[Father O'Blivion]]
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* [[Strictly Genteel (The Track)|Strictly Genteel]] is sang like a prayer asking God to have mercy on various kinds of people
* [[Cosmik Debris]]: ''"He said for a nominal service charge/I could reach nirvana tonight!"'' and ''"what kind of a guru are you anyway?"''
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* [[Tears Began To Fall]]: ''"Tears began to fall and fall and fall down the church, down the church"''.
* [[Strictly Genteel]] is sang like a prayer asking God to have mercy on various kinds of people
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* [[A Token Of My Extreme]]
 
* [[What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are?]]: ''"My church plugged into the gravy train"'' and ''"we wouldn't blow you just because you know God".''
 
* [[What Kind Of Girl Do You Think We Are?]]: ''"My church plugged into the gravy train"'' and ''"we wouldn't blow you just because you know God".''
 
* [[When The Lie's So Big]]
 
* [[When The Lie's So Big]]
* [[Tears Began To Fall]]: ''"Tears began to fall and fall and fall down the church, down the church"''.
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* [[Your Mouth]]: ''"Your mouth is your religion"''
* [[Religious Superstition]]
 
* The original title of [[Eat That Question]] was ''"Eat That Christian"''.
 
  
==Conceptual Continuity==
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==See also==
* [[Mother, Mary 'n Jozef]]
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* [["Congress Shall Make No Law . . ."]] features tracks with titles referring to the Ten Commandments.
* [[Hare Rama]]
 
 
* [[Aaron]]
 
* [[Aaron]]
* [[Buddha]]
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* [[Anti-Defamation League Of The B'nai B'rith]]
* [[Mohammed]]
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* [[Appliantology]]
 
* [[Ave Maria]]
 
* [[Ave Maria]]
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* [[Brown Moses]]
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* [[Church of American Secular Humanism]]
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* [[Edmund Cohen]]
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* [[Quentin Robert DeNameland]]
 
* [[The Devil (CC)]]
 
* [[The Devil (CC)]]
* [[Satan]]
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* [[Dio Fa]]
* [[Appliantology]]
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* [[Faith]]
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* [[Billy Graham]]
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* [[Hare Rama]]
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* [[Holy Terror]]
 
* [[L. Ron Hoover]]
 
* [[L. Ron Hoover]]
* [[Quentin Robert DeNameland]]
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* [[Israel]]
* [[Quentin Robert DeNameland (CC)]]
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* [[Jerusalem]]
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* [[Jesus]]
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* [[Khomeini]]
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* [[Mohammed]]
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* [[Keith Moon]] plays a nun in [[200 Motels (The Film)]]
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* [[Mormons]]
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* [[Mother, Mary 'n Jozef]]
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* [[Once A Catholic]]
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* [[Pope]]
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* [[Pope Paul III]]
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* [[Pope Paul VI]]
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* [[Salvation For Sale]]
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* [[Warning/Guarantee-Sticker]]
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* [[The World Church]]
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* A nun can be seen in the music video of [[You Are What You Is (The Track)]]
  
 
==Quotes==
 
==Quotes==
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In [[The Real Frank Zappa Book]], in the chapter ''"Church & State"'', Zappa printed several quotes by famous people who claim they don't believe in God or believe that Church and government should remain separate.  
 
In [[The Real Frank Zappa Book]], in the chapter ''"Church & State"'', Zappa printed several quotes by famous people who claim they don't believe in God or believe that Church and government should remain separate.  
  
* [[Abraham Lincoln]]
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* [[wikipedia:Thomas Jefferson|Thomas Jefferson]] - "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
* [[Thomas Paine]]
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* [[Thomas Jefferson]]
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* [[wikipedia:Abraham Lincoln|Abraham Lincoln]] - "The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
* [[George Washington]]
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* [[wikipedia:Thomas Paine|Thomas Paine]] - "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."
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* [[wikipedia:George Washington|George Washington]]: "The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine."
  
 
==Targets and topics==
 
==Targets and topics==

Latest revision as of 07:36, 30 December 2021


Zappa was raised as a Catholic, but later became an atheist.

"When Dweezil was born, Gail decided to have 'natural childbirth.' At that time, the only hospital in Los Angeles that would allow this process to occur with a Dad in the delivery room was Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital. When it was time for the Big Delivery, we experienced a slight delay -- we had to fill out a mass of papers before they'd let us in, riddled with irrelevant questions like: "What religion are you?"

Gail looked at me and said, "What do we put?" I said, "Musician."'' (FZ in The Real Frank Zappa Book, page 216.)

Zappa was very critical of organized religion and the power and influence it has on politics and people. During the 1980s he wrote several satirical songs bashing televangelists Jerry Falwell, Robert Tilton, Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart.

"They tried to make me go to Catholic school, too. I lasted a very short time. When the penguin came after me with a ruler, I was out of there. (...)I still went to church regularly, though, until I was eighteen years old. Then suddenly, the light bulb went on over my head. All the mindless mobidity and discipline was pretty sick – bleeding this, painful that and no meat on Friday. What is this shit? (...) Well, I think it was possible to do what I've done only because I escaped the bondage of being a devout believer. To be a good member of the congregation, ultimately you have to stop thinking. The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden story. The fruit that was forbidden was on the tree of knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could still be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your fucking mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions." (Frank Zappa. Interview in Playboy, 1993)

But, despite his objections against organized religion and the fact that he didn't believe in God or Jesus, he tolerated religious people.

"One of the misconceptions about evangelicals in the U.S. is that they're all as extreme as Swaggart, Falwell and Robertson. They're not. Most of them just want to worship at their local church. They don't give a shit about those guys on television -- they think they're clowns and that what they do cheapens everyone's religious experience. On this, we definitely agree."Frank Zappa, The Real Frank Zappa Book.

Songs about religion or referencing religious topics

(Not included are songs with occasional exclamations or swear words like "Good God", "Oh my God" or "goddamn".)

See also

Quotes

In The Real Frank Zappa Book, in the chapter "Church & State", Zappa printed several quotes by famous people who claim they don't believe in God or believe that Church and government should remain separate.

  • Thomas Jefferson - "It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
  • Abraham Lincoln - "The Bible is not my book, and Christianity is not my religion. I could never give assent to the long, complicated statements of Christian dogma."
  • Thomas Paine - "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church."
  • George Washington: "The United States is in no sense founded upon the Christian doctrine."

Targets and topics