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     Name          = Them Or Us |
 
     Name          = Them Or Us |
 
     Released      = October 1984 |
 
     Released      = October 1984 |
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     Related        = See also:<br>[[Them Or Us (The Book)]] |
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     Related        = See also:<br>{{IINKLink|lyrics/Them_Or_Us.html}},{{ZPLink|vinylvscds/them-or-us.html}},{{KURLink|fz-discography/them-or-us}}<br>[[Them Or Us (The Book)]]<br>[[Thing-Fish/Them or Us Promo]]<br>[[Specialized Digital Audio Gratification]] |
 
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</div>
 
</div>
  
 
==Players==
 
==Players==
 +
 
*[[Frank Zappa]] (guitar & vocals)
 
*[[Frank Zappa]] (guitar & vocals)
 
*[[Ray White]], [[Ike Willis]], [[Napoleon Murphy Brock]], [[George Duke]], [[Bobby Martin]], [[Roy Estrada]] (vocals, harmony)
 
*[[Ray White]], [[Ike Willis]], [[Napoleon Murphy Brock]], [[George Duke]], [[Bobby Martin]], [[Roy Estrada]] (vocals, harmony)
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==Release Notes==
 
==Release Notes==
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==Liner Notes==
 
==Liner Notes==
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==Background Information==
 
==Background Information==
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Cover painting by [[Donald Roller Wilson]]
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 +
Cover painting by [[Donald Roller Wilson]].
 +
 
 
==Conceptual Continuity==
 
==Conceptual Continuity==
  
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{| {{Versions Table Header}}
 
{| {{Versions Table Header}}
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| rowspan=14 align="center" | 40
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| rowspan="15" align="center" | 40
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| rowspan=5 align="center" | '''1.1<br>Original<br>[[Wikipedia:Stereophonic sound|Stereo]]'''
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| rowspan="6" align="center" | '''1.1<br>Original<br>[[wikipedia:Stereophonic sound|Stereo]]'''
 
| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | 2
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| align="center" | [[Wikipedia:Long playing record|LP]]
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| align="center" | [[wikipedia:Long playing record|LP]]
 
| [[Barking Pumpkin]]<br>SVBO-74200
 
| [[Barking Pumpkin]]<br>SVBO-74200
 
| 1984-10-18
 
| 1984-10-18
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| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | LP
 
| align="center" | LP
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| [[EMI Records|EMI]]<br>2402439
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| [[EMI Records|EMI]]<br>FZD1 {{SUTCLink|pictures/Themorus_UK_E2402341.jpg|2402343}}
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| 1984?
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| 1984-10<sup>[[#Note1|[1]]]</sup>
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
 
| UK edition.
 
| UK edition.
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|-
 +
| align="center" | 1
 +
| align="center" | [[wikipedia:Compact audio cassette|CS]]
 +
| EMI<br>{{DiscogsPicLink|852764|2402349}}
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| 1984-10?
 +
| &nbsp;
 +
| &nbsp;
 +
| French edition.
 
|-
 
|-
 
| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | LP
 
| align="center" | LP
−
| EMI<br>EMS-67176•77
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| EMI<br>{{DiscogsPicLink|pictures/themorus_japan_EMS_67176.jpg|EMS-67176•77}}
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
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|-
 
|-
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
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| align="center" | [[Wikipedia:Compact disc|CD]]
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| align="center" | [[wikipedia:Compact disc|CD]]
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| [[Rykodisc]]<br>RCD 40027
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| [[Rykodisc]]<br>{{DiscogsPicLink|445524|RCD&nbsp;40027}}
 
| 1986
 
| 1986
 
| 0014431002724<br>(not printed)
 
| 0014431002724<br>(not printed)
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
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| US edition, [[Wikipedia:SPARS Code|DDD]]. Matrix #<br>818 PUMPKIN RYK-CD40027 SOI01 MADE IN USA. SHAPE OPTIMEDIA INC. .9
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| US edition, [[wikipedia:SPARS Code|DDD]]. Matrix #<br>818 PUMPKIN RYK-CD40027 SOI01 MADE IN USA. SHAPE OPTIMEDIA INC. .9
 
|-
 
|-
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
−
| EMI<br>CDP 7-90080-2
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| EMI<br>CDP&nbsp;7-90080-2
 
| 1986
 
| 1986
 
| 0077779008025?
 
| 0077779008025?
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| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | 2
 
| align="center" | LP
 
| align="center" | LP
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| [[Zappa Records|Zappa]]<br>ZAPPA 30
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| [[Zappa Records|Zappa]]<br>ZAPPA&nbsp;30
 
| 1990?
 
| 1990?
 
| 5016583603014?
 
| 5016583603014?
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|-
 
|-
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
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| align="center" | [[Wikipedia:Compact audio cassette|CS]]
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| align="center" | CS
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| Zappa<br>TZAPPA 30
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| Zappa<br>TZAPPA&nbsp;30
 
| 1990?
 
| 1990?
 
| 5016583603045?
 
| 5016583603045?
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| UK edition.
 
| UK edition.
 
|-
 
|-
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| rowspan=1 align="center" | '''1.2<br>Slightly<br>lower<br>quality<br>[[Wikipedia:Remaster|master]],<br>but track<br>12 is<br>longer'''
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| align="center" | '''1.2<br>Slightly<br>lower<br>quality<br>[[wikipedia:Remaster|master]],<br>but track<br>12 is<br>longer'''
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| Zappa<br>CDZAP 30
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| Zappa<br>{{DiscogsPicLink|1380288|CDZAP&nbsp;30}}
 
| 1990-09-01
 
| 1990-09-01
 
| 5016583603021
 
| 5016583603021
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
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| UK edition.
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| UK edition, [[wikipedia:SPARS Code|DDD]]. Matrix # ZAP&nbsp;CD&nbsp;30 MPO 04 @@
 
|-
 
|-
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| rowspan=1 align="center" | '''1.1<br>Original<br>Stereo'''
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| align="center" | '''1.1<br>Original<br>Stereo'''
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| [[VideoArts]]<br>VACK 5046
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| [[VideoArts]]<br>VACK&nbsp;5046
 
| 1994-11-25
 
| 1994-11-25
 
| 4988112405868
 
| 4988112405868
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| Japanese edition.
 
| Japanese edition.
 
|-
 
|-
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| rowspan=5 align="center" | '''1.2<br>Slightly<br>lower<br>quality<br>master,<br>but track<br>12 is<br>longer'''
+
| rowspan="5" align="center" | '''1.2<br>Slightly<br>lower<br>quality<br>master,<br>but track<br>12 is<br>longer'''
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| Rykodisc<br>RCD 10543
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| Rykodisc<br>{{DiscogsPicLink|368565|RCD&nbsp;10543}}
 
| 1995-05-02
 
| 1995-05-02
 
| 0014431054327
 
| 0014431054327
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| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| VideoArts<br>VACK 5131
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| VideoArts<br>VACK&nbsp;5131
 
| 1995-10-25
 
| 1995-10-25
 
| 4988112407909
 
| 4988112407909
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| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| VideoArts<br>VACK 5151
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| VideoArts<br>VACK&nbsp;5151
 
| 1995-11-25
 
| 1995-11-25
 
| 4988112408029
 
| 4988112408029
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| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| VideoArts<br>VACK 5266
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| VideoArts<br>VACK&nbsp;5266
 
| 1996-05-30
 
| 1996-05-30
 
| 4988112408661
 
| 4988112408661
 
| &nbsp;
 
| &nbsp;
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| Japanese edition = Rykodisc RCD 10543 repackaged with an [[wikipedia:obi strip|obi strip]] and extra liner notes in Japanese
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| Japanese edition = Rykodisc RCD&nbsp;10543 repackaged with an [[wikipedia:obi strip|obi strip]] and extra liner notes in Japanese
 
|-
 
|-
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | 1
 
| align="center" | CD
 
| align="center" | CD
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| VideoArts<br>VACK 1255
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| VideoArts<br>VACK&nbsp;1255
 
| 2002-10-23
 
| 2002-10-23
 
| 4988112413542
 
| 4988112413542
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| Japanese edition, mini-album papersleeve.
 
| Japanese edition, mini-album papersleeve.
 
|}
 
|}
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==Notes==
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 +
#<div id="Note1">Martin C. Strong, 2004, ''The Great Rock Discography'', p. 1723.</div>
  
 
==See Also==
 
==See Also==
 +
 
*[[Them Or Us (The Book)]]
 
*[[Them Or Us (The Book)]]
 +
*[[Thing-Fish/Them or Us Promo]]
 +
*[[Specialized Digital Audio Gratification]]
  
 
[[Category:Discography]]
 
[[Category:Discography]]
 
[[Category:Original Albums]]
 
[[Category:Original Albums]]
 
[[Category:The Real Frank Zappa Book (The List)]]
 
[[Category:The Real Frank Zappa Book (The List)]]

Revision as of 15:15, 21 November 2010

Album History
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Them Or Us
Released October 1984
See also:
IINK,Patio,KUR
Them Or Us (The Book)
Thing-Fish/Them or Us Promo
Specialized Digital Audio Gratification

Players

Tracks

LP

Side One

  1. The Closer You Are (2:58)
  2. In France (3:30)
  3. Ya Hozna (6:26)
  4. Sharleena (4:33)

Side Two

  1. Sinister Footwear II (8:40)
  2. Truck Driver Divorce (9:03)

Side Three

  1. Stevie's Spanking (5:24)
  2. Baby, Take Your Teeth Out (1:24)
  3. Marque-son's Chicken (7:34)
  4. Planet Of My Dreams (1:40)

Side Four

  1. Be In My Video (3:39)
  2. Them Or Us (5:08)
  3. Frogs With Dirty Little Lips (2:46)
  4. Whipping Post (7:32)
Current CD
  1. The Closer You Are (2:55)
  2. In France (3:33)
  3. Ya Hozna (6:27)
  4. Sharleena (4:33)
  5. Sinister Footwear II (8:39)
  6. Truck Driver Divorce (8:59)
  7. Stevie's Spanking (5:24)
  8. Baby, Take Your Teeth Out (1:54)
  9. Marque-son's Chicken (7:34)
  10. Planet Of My Dreams (1:37)
  11. Be In My Video (3:39)
  12. Them Or Us (5:23)
  13. Frogs With Dirty Little Lips (2:42)
  14. Whipping Post (7:32)

Release Notes

Liner Notes

Background Information

Cover painting by Donald Roller Wilson.

Conceptual Continuity

Versions

ZFT # Version # # discs Format Catalog # Release
(YYYY-MM-DD) 		Barcode
(EAN-13) 		Artwork Comment
40 1.1
Original
Stereo 		2 LP Barking Pumpkin
SVBO-74200 		1984-10-18 None   US edition. Matrix #

Side1: SVBO-74200-AS1 #1
BPR 2 9432 AS1
SLM jm Δ7194 1-3 818-PUMPKIN 0
Side2: Side #2 SVBO-74200-BS1
2 BPR 2 9432 BS1 #2
SLM jm Δ7194-X 1-3 818-PUMPKIN 0
Side3: SVBO-74200-CS2 #1
BPR 2 9432-CS2
SLMΔ7195 jm 1-3 818-PUMPKIN 0
Side4: SVBO-74200-DS1 #1
BPR 2 9432-DS1
jm SLMΔ7195-X 818-PUMPKIN 1-3 0

2 LP EMI
FZD1 2402343 		1984-10[1]     UK edition.
1 CS EMI
2402349 		1984-10?     French edition.
2 LP EMI
EMS-67176•77 		      Japanese edition.
1 CD Rykodisc
RCD 40027 		1986 0014431002724
(not printed) 		  US edition, DDD. Matrix #
818 PUMPKIN RYK-CD40027 SOI01 MADE IN USA. SHAPE OPTIMEDIA INC. .9
1 CD EMI
CDP 7-90080-2 		1986 0077779008025?   UK edition.
Unknown 2 LP Zappa
ZAPPA 30 		1990? 5016583603014?   UK edition.
1 CS Zappa
TZAPPA 30 		1990? 5016583603045?   UK edition.
1.2
Slightly
lower
quality
master,
but track
12 is
longer 		1 CD Zappa
CDZAP 30 		1990-09-01 5016583603021   UK edition, DDD. Matrix # ZAP CD 30 MPO 04 @@
1.1
Original
Stereo 		1 CD VideoArts
VACK 5046 		1994-11-25 4988112405868   Japanese edition.
1.2
Slightly
lower
quality
master,
but track
12 is
longer 		1 CD Rykodisc
RCD 10543 		1995-05-02 0014431054327   US edition. Matrix # IFPI 2U7E WEA mfg. OLYPHANT ifpi L90? Y12049 A4 P2 310543-2 01 M1S1
1 CD VideoArts
VACK 5131 		1995-10-25 4988112407909   Japanese edition.
1 CD VideoArts
VACK 5151 		1995-11-25 4988112408029   Japanese edition.
1 CD VideoArts
VACK 5266 		1996-05-30 4988112408661   Japanese edition = Rykodisc RCD 10543 repackaged with an obi strip and extra liner notes in Japanese
1 CD VideoArts
VACK 1255 		2002-10-23 4988112413542   Japanese edition, mini-album papersleeve.

Notes

  1. Martin C. Strong, 2004, The Great Rock Discography, p. 1723.

See Also

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