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Duncan


Duncan, why did you block users "Tanjo" and "Origamikitty"? Am I missing something?
User "Tictac" was already blocked for 2 years.
--Emdebe 10:10, 10 Mar 2006 (PST)


Yes. They are probably all one person, one of whom pretends to clean up spam - although makes no other contribution - presumably in the hope that we will not notice the bulk of the spam remaining.

Duncan 13:22, 10 Mar 2006 (PST)

I agree, this might be a new spam technique based on confusion. Including a picture reading test on the subscription page should prevent robots spam.

Maroual 19:38, 10 Mar 2006 (PST)

UPPER/lower Case mAMa mia!!!

Hi Duncan,

Trying to answer your question "Should title be capitalised?", I found a lot of guidelines on the Wikipedia such as:

Though I could not find the case detailed, it seems that a title itself is not a citation. So the usual rule should also apply to it: only the first letter would be upper case (except if it is an acronym of course).

Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe we already had similar discussions with Emdebe and then we chose to capitalize the first letter of each word (the American way).

Please also note that the Wikipedia guidelines also recommend to make exceptions for foreign titles if they are not commonly used in English dictionnaries (for instance Art Nouveau is preferred vs Art nouveau).

Maroual 15:20, 24 Oct 2006 (PDT)


hi duncan i'm hermann propellerkuh can you please specify on which articles you want to have sources named? second: sorry, i am not acquainted with wikifying articles yet ... hope the texts will do in the meanwhile ...

propellerq@gmx.at


hi duncan

Wikipedia Does Suck, Yes It Does!!
I'm aware of that, especially after looking their webpage for Guitar Player and finding my prejudices about FZs reception hardened. Of course, it is like it ever was: "... featuring all famous guitarist from Gilmour to VanHalen ..." and like Holy Writ NO FRANK ZAPPA!
Pity is that it is one of the most complete sources easily reached ...
So let them suck!

Propellerkuh 03:39, 21 Apr 2007 (PDT)

hi duncan

I tried to clear up a little bit of the "wanted pages" and found "Who Are the Brain Police?" (no capitalised "t"!) but when searching the Wiki no page with that exact name was to be found. If you know how to solve that let me know.

Thanx

Propellerkuh

Talking to myself :-)

I borrowed the box thingy at the top from Wikipedia. Pretty neat eh?

Duncan 04:25, 25 Sep 2007 (PDT)

Discussion Box

Wow this is cool stuff. I will do the same ;)

The Significance of Insignificance

What is the significance of "insignificant reference in TRFZB"?
It seems to me, that this is a rather subjective statement which I can’t really agree upon, objectively speaking... ;-)
--Emdebe 09:02, 10 October 2007 (PDT)


If there was any significant linkage to anything else here I would have made an article but they are just oblique references of no significance to a Zappa wiki that could be linked out to wikipedia from a (vaguely) more relevant article. e.g. The quote with the Night Of The Living Dead reference could be included in an article about Zappa's attitude towards Christians and TV evangelists - with a link elsewhere for anyone who did not know the reference but it does not deserve it's own article here - but that does not exclude anyone from re-making the page and writing an article about it if they really wanted to.

Duncan 09:39, 10 October 2007 (PDT)

The Bullet!

That's the part that gets me the hottest! -Tzf 01:13, 23 Aug 2006 (PDT)


Hi Duncan just mail me your street address to "propellerq@gmx.at" and i send you a cd

Propellerkuh, Hermann Schindler


Hi Duncan
To the meandering sounds of Lumpy Gravy pt 2 I'm writing this: I see what you mean with the Saturday Night Live Interview and Article ... thing is, when one sees the "Saturday Night Live" article part ending with "Frank Zappa - Interview Stereo Review 1979" one might look for that article and be left with a feeling that there could be more – – – I have a hint that this is MY idiosyncratic urge to be COMPLETE, to have COMPLETE collections of my object d'desire – – – but, what the fuck, kill the stump.

Propellerkuh 23:05, 25 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Hi Propellerkuh
Yes I guess there is more - judging by the cover the article could be called "A little Talk with Frank Zappa" but we can change it when we know for sure.

Good to hear you refer to Lumpy Gravy as Part 2 rather than this silly idea that it is made up of individual tracks that have names! I still think of it as Side 1 and Side 2. Still sounds good after all these years.

Still enjoying your CDs - Is there a listing of the track names anywhere?

Duncan 02:13, 26 Mar 2007 (PDT)


Happy to hear you like my music ... I myself am very split about it. sometimes I like it, sometimes I'm not so sure ...

the tracks:

die onegeznez
01 Ohren Feigen 7:20
02 88-10-10 1:16
03 Immaschlimma 2:51
04 Netzbrumm 0:31
05 Mundharmon 0:07
06 Aiff, aiff! 0:04
07 Den Web (523) 1:07
08 Den Web (52) 0:34
09 Callipygian 0:17
10 Callipygian ev 4:11
11 Ballet für Cyborg 2:54
12 don't copy! Paste! 1:58
13 Name 2:29
14 The Roxy Suite 1: Millie Jay 4:01
15 The Roxy Suite 2: 2 Doppler aus der Sonnenstadt 3:29
16 Aiff, aiff, aiff! 0:04
17 Basilisk 6:58
18 Das Leid der Anden 3:02
19 Ants at Home 5:10
20 Consterned 0:10
21 Choir of the Bios 4:22
22 The Audience Goes Ooooh! 3:52
23 Lazy Dialog 0:08
24 Callipygian 0:04
25 It's been a Hard Disk’s Nite 1:58
26 How To Live with such Eyebrows 2:00
27 You-Nique! 3:06
28 Die andre Backe 3:02

rock'n'marshmallow
01 XXXX 5:15
02 Kroko* 3:09
03 Juli 75 3:21
04 Peters* 2 0:32
05 Summa 2:56
06 Two-dimensional Clothes 4:28
07 Brrrr* 8:47
08 oms clix 4:07
09 Holiday* 2:55
10 Peters 5* 2:03
11 I Need Your No 5:55
12 Casioaudio(modoinfernoalfornoporno)* 1:25
13 62song* 0:48
14 Tauwetta 11:13
15 Im Westen nichts Neues* 3:18
16 Morgenstimmung 8:09
17 D'Sogbradn 3:30

Vorsicht Kunst!
01 Kuhl, Kuhl, Two 2:22
02 Loop your Own Loops, Think Your Own Thoughts 1:25
03 While You Were Arf 0:37
04 Schmutz in den Rillen I 0:04
05 Steeldrum 1:43
06 Rabies & Rigor 3:47
07 3-3-4 0:17
08 I war so gern in Dataland 2:20
09 Wie die Marmelade in die Welt kommt 4:29
10 Bon Giorno, Signore Boccherini 2:25
11 Schmutz in den Rillen II 0:10
12 AreYouMehrheitsfähig? 1:45
13 RipApArt 3:10
14 Mean Time Bevor Fehler 1:02
15 Was schreima üban Tzappa 1:10
16 Suite zur Kuckucksuhr 2:46
17 Promenade der Enzesfelder Schlurfe, Chop Suey 3:49 18 6-6 4:04
19 Pneumonia 2:07
20 Dataland 3:42
21 Wut & Unterhosen 2:07
22 Mei Tritoñ, Willis Walk 4:09
23 Wazziz? 4:18
24 Frohes Schaffen 4:15

as you can see on my website "rock'n'marshmallow" is a cooperation between peter hadamitzky and me. I like his tracks* very much!

Propellerkuh 12:45, 26 Mar 2007 (PDT)

Left Picture vs. Right Picture?

Hi
Just wanned to ask: What's the best way to place pictures in articles? I always thought it best to place them to the right side ofthe page with the benefit that sees indented text as such, whereas when the picture is left side you cant see the indented text.
What do you think? ~~Propellerkuh

Captain Beefheart

Hi Duncan

Thanks for your guiding hand. I've just posted Maroual's User Talk an outline of what I was trying to achieve regarding Beefheart.
Everything Beefheart ONLY RELATING TO ZAPPA on one page. Pure Beefheart only stuff would be found as links to external sites, nothing of only Beefheart consequence here in the ZWJ site.
What I was also trying to emphasise was the early teen years together, Frank's almost fatherly control in respect of CB, '66-to'69 the Trout period, then the latter stuff that popped up on Grow Fins- while keeping EVERYTHING Beefheart that was Zappa related on one page.
There aren't other musicians in the Zappa stable that are quite so intertwined or formative in the emergence (and divergence) of them both. Jointly they had no previous history. Other Magic Band members appeared with FZ, such a page enables overview/aliases list.

Only just beginning to appreciate the enormity of what you guys have achieved and trying hard to get on your wavelength.

I don't see a problem if something small 'doubles up', as long as it's in context with the subject. ie What I'm suggesting under Captain Beefheart would result in the appearance of Orange Claw Hammer as a click-thru to it in Category:Tracks.

I put in 'possibly' as a lure for someone to edit & say it's true, or correct it. Realise now that this isn't Wiki- should have asked first in Talk.

Please consider the merits of my Captain Beefheart page suggestion & what I've done to date/suggestions to Maroual. I promise not to make any more entries in this respect until I see the judgements from you & Maroual.

--Tonefish 10:12, 13 May 2008 (PDT)

We need a good Beefheart article (I have started it a couple of times but never got very far with it) which would link out to individual pages. The everything on one page approach creates large unwieldy articles which can cause more problems than they solve. We do not know what people using the wiki are looking for and where they have come from sending them to a page with too much info on will not help them. Sending them to a page about a track they just heard and then following the links back as far they want to go will be of more use to them.
I am not so sure about the magazine articles either. They would need their own page too bit do they add much to the Zappa content?
Sorry have not covered all your points have to dash out again.
Do not worry about making more entries - we can always undo them ;-) Duncan 13:03, 14 May 2008 (PDT)

Song vs Track, ie Orange Claw Hammer

Duncan, I'm being a Big Pane In Your Window.
What's the difference between a Track and a Song? By the wiki layout definition I'm on a Track Page here at Orange Claw Hammer, talking about one Song (written & performed by Captain Beefheart) released in two Track Versions, one played only by the Magic Band and produced by FZ (on a Side Project/Beefheart album), the other played by Beefheart (on a Beefheart compilation) that 'features' FZ on guitar.
It's also a Track (the original) that also appears on the Beefheart compilation The Dust Blows Forward: An Anthology that contains Bongo Fury tracks. On this wiki's Bongo Fury page the Tracks are referred to as Tracks, while on the Trout Mask Replica page they're Songs but, if you click the Song The Blimp, it's a Track page... I'm confused, but think Orange Claw Hammer is now almost there. Do semantics divide Us or Them?
PS: Before anyone says it, I think a Song is a set of Lyrics (with musical annotation) & a Track is a musical/audio interpretation of that Song (or words to that effect). --Tonefish 08:00, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

Welcome to the never ending discussion The wiki is slowly evolving into some useful form but still has some way to go. You make valid points which, I am sure, will be addressed someday but for now I would go for content over semantics. Duncan 12:11, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

Yellow Shark photo "by Rien Post"

Hi Duncan,

Notatall reported that Image:Zappa yshark.jpg is actually a screenshot from a video, not a photo (check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA-Xm4Jj6h8 at 9'28").

As a consequence, should we replace it with a color version and maybe use it in an article? Or should we just delete it?

Have a nice weekend ;-)

Maroual 16:47, 22 May 2009 (PDT)

As most of the stuff here is a copyvio (this is not Wikipedia) it should stay for now and we could add a colour version at some point. Duncan 04:17, 25 May 2009 (PDT)