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+ | Oh, and as for hyphens and dashes etc.: I'm also not too sure with those. I usually use a dash if a word is interrupted half-way (e.g. "'''Hi, how are you do--'''" - "'''Shut up!'''"). And I usually make a distinction between being interrupted and fading out (where, as I've stated before, I usually use ellipsis). | ||
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+ | Another thing that comes to my mind: is it okay to make two hyphens for a dash? I just realised that the only reason I do that might be that word processors like Word automatically transform those into a dash. But I'm not too sure anymore if it's formally correct. | ||
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+ | Anyway, thanks for your advice. It is much appreciated. :) | ||
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Revision as of 12:42, 20 December 2007
Hi y'all.
Being a teacher dealing with Editorial Design at a kind of Applied Arts School in Vienna Austria (die Graphische Bundes- Lehr, und Versuchsanstalt) I feel obliged to proclaim some rules for the use of the Ellipsis (...), hoping very badly that they are valid for other languages and above all English too.
- On the Apple keyboard and within certain desktop applications and font design software there is a correct letter for the Ellipsis (Alt-.) As we cannot be certain if all browsers, platforms or font formats display this letter correctly, the best alternative is three dots.
- Or lets try the " … " and wait for feedback: How does the Ellipsis in this sentence look for you?
- If a word is complete followed by the Ellipsis, there should be a blank (space) after the word: Word ..., not: Word...,
- If a word fades out, there is no blank: "Ass... for Asshole."
- If a word fades in, there is no blank: "...hole for Asshole."
- If the Ellipsis is followed by a exclamation sign, question mark, colon, semicolon, brackets or something similar, there is no blank: "fading ...; not: fading ... ;"
- There is no period after the Ellipsis if the sentence ends ... (not: ends ....)
It would be fine and more professional from the word-processional side if we could follow these rules in the future.
There are some rules for hyphens, dashes etcetera. Maybe we could go there too?
I hope I don't sound like a typical teacher to you. Don't get me wrong, I can live perfectly with the articles as they are ... just thought you might want to know.
Propellerkuh 08:49, 20 December 2007 (PST)
Hm, I'm not completely sure if I'm using it correctly. I was only doing it as I am used to at the university (which includes transscriptions of oral documents).
That being said, I was absolutely unfamiliar with the rules you posted. But the way I see it, the only mistake I (repeatedly!) made in this article is what you stated in (3), i.e. not putting a blank after a word followed by an ellipsis. Is that correct? I've looked it up in the English Wikipedia (wiki:Ellipsis), and the rules given there are slightly different from what you wrote under (3).
I'm also used to making a distinction between "..." and "(...)". I use the former if the speaker makes a pause or fades out (indicating: there is nothing here), and the latter if I willingly omit something or did not understand something (indicating: there is something here).
I've also noticed some inconsistent use of the ellipsis in this wiki, mostly with regards to spacing within the ellipsis ("..." vs. ". . ."). Any idea about that?
--Fishbrain 11:32, 20 December 2007 (PST)
Oh, and as for hyphens and dashes etc.: I'm also not too sure with those. I usually use a dash if a word is interrupted half-way (e.g. "Hi, how are you do--" - "Shut up!"). And I usually make a distinction between being interrupted and fading out (where, as I've stated before, I usually use ellipsis).
Another thing that comes to my mind: is it okay to make two hyphens for a dash? I just realised that the only reason I do that might be that word processors like Word automatically transform those into a dash. But I'm not too sure anymore if it's formally correct.
Anyway, thanks for your advice. It is much appreciated. :)
--Fishbrain 11:42, 20 December 2007 (PST)