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Hi, dkap here. I removed: *[[T'Mershi Duween]] - the main theme is in 23/24 <sup>[[#Note1|[1]]]</sup> because 23/24 is not a time signature, but rather a reference to a polyrhythm of 23 notes played evenly over 24 units of rhythms/beats. | Hi, dkap here. I removed: *[[T'Mershi Duween]] - the main theme is in 23/24 <sup>[[#Note1|[1]]]</sup> because 23/24 is not a time signature, but rather a reference to a polyrhythm of 23 notes played evenly over 24 units of rhythms/beats. | ||
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| + | That's right. Now it seems to me that the [[EIHN|EIHN (Everything Is Healing Nicely)]] version begins with something like 3 bars in 23/16 (which I misinterpreted to be 23/24), 3 bars 10/16, 3 bars 23/16, 8 bars 10/16, 4 bars 3/8, 4 bars 10/32. Then comes the combinations as per described by http://www.zappa-analysis.com/counterpoint.htm | ||
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| + | What do you think? | ||
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| + | [[User:Maroual|Maroual]] 15:23, 26 April 2009 (PDT) | ||
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| + | Thanks, Maroual. I'm not sure of the differences between the EIHN version and the other versions I have (just two, one from YCDTOSAII and a bootleg called "Rondo Hatton Band"). I've only seen it annotated as a 23:24 polyrhythm over either 6/4 (or even 4/4 as in the case of the YCDTOSAII version). The 23 comes from the the "T'mershi Tuplet" and the 24 comes from the amount of 16th notes underneath it (as in 6 quarters worth of 16th notes in the 6/4 example). 23 could be the time signature in the EIHN version though, it does stand on its own in the beginning without a counter pulse that I can (at cursory listening) determine. I'm not an authority so your guess is as good as mine, at least until the ZFT starts selling scores again to the general public (if ever!). | ||
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| + | Best regards, | ||
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| + | [[User:Dkaplowitz|dkaplowitz]] [[User:Dkaplowitz|Dkaplowitz]] 16:04, 26 April 2009 (PDT) | ||
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| + | P.S. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/h.hutchison/main.htm (look under "23s") It's a very old site, not sure how accurate it all is, but interesting nonetheless. | ||
| + | [[User:Dkaplowitz|dkaplowitz]] [[User:Dkaplowitz|Dkaplowitz]] 16:06, 26 April 2009 (PDT) | ||
Latest revision as of 15:08, 26 April 2009
Hi, dkap here. I removed: *T'Mershi Duween - the main theme is in 23/24 [1] because 23/24 is not a time signature, but rather a reference to a polyrhythm of 23 notes played evenly over 24 units of rhythms/beats.
That's right. Now it seems to me that the EIHN (Everything Is Healing Nicely) version begins with something like 3 bars in 23/16 (which I misinterpreted to be 23/24), 3 bars 10/16, 3 bars 23/16, 8 bars 10/16, 4 bars 3/8, 4 bars 10/32. Then comes the combinations as per described by http://www.zappa-analysis.com/counterpoint.htm
What do you think?
Maroual 15:23, 26 April 2009 (PDT)
(please note that you can sign with a timestamp by typing ~~~~)
Thanks, Maroual. I'm not sure of the differences between the EIHN version and the other versions I have (just two, one from YCDTOSAII and a bootleg called "Rondo Hatton Band"). I've only seen it annotated as a 23:24 polyrhythm over either 6/4 (or even 4/4 as in the case of the YCDTOSAII version). The 23 comes from the the "T'mershi Tuplet" and the 24 comes from the amount of 16th notes underneath it (as in 6 quarters worth of 16th notes in the 6/4 example). 23 could be the time signature in the EIHN version though, it does stand on its own in the beginning without a counter pulse that I can (at cursory listening) determine. I'm not an authority so your guess is as good as mine, at least until the ZFT starts selling scores again to the general public (if ever!).
Best regards,
dkaplowitz Dkaplowitz 16:04, 26 April 2009 (PDT)
P.S. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/h.hutchison/main.htm (look under "23s") It's a very old site, not sure how accurate it all is, but interesting nonetheless. dkaplowitz Dkaplowitz 16:06, 26 April 2009 (PDT)
