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| + | Content [[Talk:Biography/Archive 1|archived]] 30 September 2021. |
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| − | Just testing whether this is the appropriate place to discuss the Biography page.
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| − | == Getting started ==
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| − | Obviously, biographical info has been published in several books - not the least, in TRFZB; how do we propose getting this data online here? Is this something that someone must enter into the database? Or does the stuff exist in cyberspace already?
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| − | == Let's start off modestly ==
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| − | We can always go into greater depth biographically-wise later; I think for now a concise biography would be sufficient.
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| − | For that, yes, someone would actually have to type stuff inhere! ;-)
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| − | --KillUglyRadio
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| − | == Starting point ==
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| − | This could be a starting point: http://globalia.net/donlope/fz/chronology/index.html
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| − | * 1940-1964 From Baltimore to Cucamonga
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| − | * 1965-1969 The Mothers of Invention
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| − | * 1970-1972 Hot Rats/Mothers/Wazoo
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| − | * 1973-1975 Discreet
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| − | * 1976-1980 Zappa/Barking Pumpkin
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| − | * 1981-1984 Them Or Us
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| − | * 1985-1993 The Last Tour
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| − | * 1994 et sq. The Zappa Family Trust
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| − | - emdebe
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| − | == Agreed ==
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| − | Agreed, and I'm about to add these subheaders to the biography page.
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| − | --KUR
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| − | == What belongs here? ==
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| − | Should we have musicians and recording session details in the biography when we have pages for all that stuff e.g...
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| − | c. August, 1962 PAL Recording Studio, Cucamonga, CA: Paul Buff (guitar, organ, drums, saxes), Dave Aerni (bass), Mike Dineri (sax), FZ (comb) - recorded Heavies (Aerni/Buff) (intro heard in Nasal Retentive Calliope Music) on We're Only In It For The Money) and The Cruncher (Aerni/Buff).
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| − | Can we check and resolve and/or explain variations in dates etc when adding to the wiki. e.g. The above biography listing gives 1962 but our pages for [[Heavies]]/[[The Cruncher]] (with no musicians listed) gives 1964.
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| − | [[User:Dunk|Dunk]] 00:48, 11 Jun 2005 (PDT) | |
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| − | "''Should we have musicians and recording session details in the biography''"... No<br>
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| − | "''Can we check and resolve and/or explain variations in dates etc''"... Yes<br>
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| − | The Wiki way of working is not always, er, working... Someone puts something on a page, then someone else picks it up, cleans it up, extends it, and puts everything in the right place... We wish! So, probably we need to do it differently... --[[User:Emdebe|Emdebe]] 08:08, 11 Jun 2005 (PDT)
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| − | =S C R A T C H P A D=
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| − | [[Frank Zappa|Frank Vincent Zappa]] was born in [[Baltimore]], [[Maryland]] on [[December 21]], 1940. His [[Francis Zappa|father]] was an immigrant from Sicily with Greek/Arab origins. His [[Rose Marie Zappa|mother]] was born in US - her mother was from Sicily and her father from Naples. [[Baltimore]] had a large Italian immigrant community and Zappa was not an uncommon name. Indeed it seems to be quite common for Zappa's to be named Frank, Francis, or Vincent.
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| − | c. 1941-44 Zappa family lives in the Army housing facility at 15, Dexter Street, [[Edgewood]], [[Maryland]]
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| − | c. 1944-50 Zappa family moves to Opa-Locka, [[Florida]], then back to Park Heights Avenue, [[Baltimore]], [[Maryland]]
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| − | c. November 1951 Zappa's father took a job at the Naval Post-Graduate School in [[Monterey]], California, so the family spent the next couple of weeks driving over 2900 miles across the US in their [[Kaiser Henry J|Henry J]].
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| − | c. 1951-52 Zappa family moves to [[Pacific Grove]], CA
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| − | Summer 1953 [[Monterey]], CA - [[Keith McKillop]]'s summer percussion school - [[Mice]] (first FZ composition)
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| − | c. 1953-54 Zappa family moves to [[Pomona]], CA
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| − | 1954 Zappa family moves to [[El Cajon]], CA - FZ enters [[Grossmont High School]], [[San Diego]], CA
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| − | 1955 [[San Diego]], CA - [[The Ramblers]]: [[Elwood "Jr." Madeo]] (guitar), [[Stuart Congdon]] (piano), FZ (drums) + others
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| − | April, 1955 [[Grossmont High School]], [[San Diego]], CA - While at ninth grade FZ wins county [[Fire Prevention Week]] poster contest
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| − | c. 1955 FZ enters [[Mission Bay High School]], [[San Diego]], CA
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| − | December 21, 1955 FZ talks with [[Edgard Varèse|Varèse]]'s wife by phone
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| − | 1956 Zappa family moves to [[Lancaster]], CA - FZ enters [[Antelope Valley High School]]
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| − | August 12, 1957 Varèse sends a letter to FZ while he's in Baltimore, MD
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| − | c. 1957-58 - [[The Blackouts]]
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| − | * The Blackouts (as listed in "[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]"): [[Wayne Lyles]] (percussion & vocals), [[Terry Wimberly]] (piano), [[Wally Salazar]] (guitar), [[Fred Salazar]] (trumpet), [[Johnny Franklin]] (tenor sax), [[Carter Franklin]], FZ (drums).
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| − | * The Blackouts (as listed in [[Greg Russo]]'s book): [[Wayne Lyles]] (percussion & vocals), [[Terry Wimberly]] (piano), [[Wally Salazar]] (guitar), [[Fred Salazar]] (trumpet), [[Ernie Thomas]] (trumpet), [[Dwight Bement]] (tenor sax), [[Steve Wolfe]] (sax), [[Jerry Reuter]] (sax), [[Johnny Franklin]] (tenor sax), [[Carter Franklin]], FZ (drums), [[Jim Sherwood]] ("The Bug" dancer).
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| − | * [[Antelope Valley High School]] Big Band: [[Wayne Lyles]] (percussion & vocals), [[Terry Wimberly]] (piano), [[Wally Salazar]] (guitar?), [[Fred Salazar]] (trumpet?), [[Ernie Thomas]] (trumpet), [[Dwight Bement]] (tenor sax?), [[Steve Wolfe]] (sax?), [[Jerry Reuter]] (sax?), [[Johnny Franklin]] (tenor sax), [[Carter Franklin]] (?), FZ (drums).
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| − | 1958 [[William Ballard]] lets FZ conduct the school orchestra - [[String Quartet]], including: "[[A Pound For A Brown (On The Bus)]]", "[[Sleeping In A Jar]]"
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| − | c. 1958 [[The Blackouts]] from [[The Lost Episodes]] - [[Wayne Lyles]] (voice), [[Terry Wimberly]] (voice), [[Elwood "Jr." Madeo]] (voice), FZ (voice)
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| − | c. 1958 The Blackouts break up
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| − | c. 1958 FZ wins California statewide art contest with his painting "Family Room"
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| − | June 13, 1958 FZ graduates from High School
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| − | Married [[Kay Sherman]] December 28, 1960. Moved to G Street, [[Ontario]]
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| − | c. 1961 FZ audits a course on composition by [[Karl Kohn]] at [[Pomona College]], [[Claremont]], CA
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| − | c. 1961 FZ rents a white [[Fender Telecaster]] from [[Ontario Music Center]],
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| − | G Street, [[Ontario]].
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| − | May, 1961 Ontario, CA - [[The Boogie Men]]: FZ - lead guitar, [[Doug Rost]] (rhythm guitar), [[Kenny Burgan]] (sax), [[Al Surratt]] (drums)
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| − | mid. 1961 FZ auditions [[Don Preston]] for a lounge band
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| − | June, 1961 FZ hired to write [[The World's Greatest Sinner (The Film)]] soundtrack
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| − | c. 1961-62 (during three months) Pomona, CA - [[Rex Jakabowski]] (guitar, harmonica, vocals), FZ (guitar), [[Ronnie Williams]] (guitar), [[Joe Perrino]] (piano), [[Dwight Bement]] (tenor sax), [[Al Surratt]] (drums)
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| − | c. 1961 FZ buys a [[Fender Jazzmaster]]
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| − | c. 1961 FZ meets [[Paul Buff]] and begins to work at [[PAL Recording Studio]], [[Cucamonga]], CA - recording of [[Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance]] from [[The Lost Episodes]]: FZ (guitar), [[Danny Helferin]] (piano), [[Chuck Foster]] (trumpet), [[Tony Rodriguez]] (alto sax), [[Caronga Ward]] (bass), [[Chuck Grove]] (drums). [[It's From Kansas]] from [[Lumpy Gravy]] may have been recorded here as well.
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| − | November, 1961-early 1962 [ten months] [[Tommy Sandi]]'s [[Club Sahara]], [[San Bernardino]], CA - [[Joe Perrino & The Mellotones]]: [[Joe Perrino]] (piano), FZ (guitar), [[Dwight Bement]] (sax) + others
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| − | November, 1961 [[Chaffey Junior College]], [[Alta Loma]], CA: 8-piece rock'n'roll band including: FZ (guitar), [[Dwight Bement]] (various instruments)
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| − | Early December, 1961 [[Chaffey Junior College]], [[Alta Loma]], CA: 20-member chamber ensemble
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| − | December 17, 1961 [[Chaffey Junior College]], [[Alta Loma]], CA: [[Pomona Valley Orchestra]] (55-member) conducted by [[Fred E. Graff]]
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| − | c. 1961-62 Living Room in Ontario, CA: Ronnie Williams (voice), Kenny Williams (voice), FZ (guitar): recorded [[Ronnie Sings?]], [[Kenny's Booger Story]] and [[Ronnie's Booger Story]], all from [[The Lost Episodes]].
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| − | 1962 - [[The Masters]] - [[PAL Recording Studio]], [[Cucamonga]], CA - [[Paul Buff]] (probably drums, bass, piano), [[Ronnie Williams]] (guitar), FZ (guitar): recorded [[Breaktime]] (Williams/Buff/FZ)
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| − | 1962 [[The Masters]] - [[Sixteen Tons]] (Travis) / [[Breaktime]] (Williams/Buff/FZ) (Emmy E 1008)
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| − | c. May, 1962 Don Preston's Garage: [[Don Preston]] - keyboards, films, assorted percussion (including a bicycle), [[Bunk Gardner]] - woodwinds, [[Buzz Gardner]] - trumpet, [[Vic Mio]] - bass, [[Jack Lake]] - percussion, + FZ - films, percussion
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| − | c. August, 1962 [[PAL Recording Studio]], [[Cucamonga]], CA: [[Paul Buff]] (guitar, organ, drums, saxes), [[Dave Aerni]] (bass), [[Mike Dineri]] (sax), FZ (comb) - recorded [[Heavies]] (Aerni/Buff) (intro heard in [[Nasal Retentive Calliope Music]]) on [[We're Only In It For The Money]]) and [[The Cruncher]] (Aerni/Buff).
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| − | September, 1962 [[Channel 7]] - [[Don Preston]], FZ and the rest audition for a TV program
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| − | December, 1962 [[PAL Recording Studio]], [[Cucamonga]], CA, Produced by [[Dave Aerni]], Engineered by FZ - [[The Tornadoes]]: Gerald Sanders (bass), Roly Sanders (guitar), Jesse Sanders (guitar), George White (sax), Leonard Delaney (drums) - recorded Moon Dawg (Weaver), The Inebriated Surfer (Sanders), Shootin' Beavers (Sanders), The Swag (Grant/Wray), Raw-Hide (Grant/Wray), Malagueña (Lecuona), The Tornado (Aerni), Bumble Bee Stomp (Sanders/Delaney/White), Vaquero (Tomsco), Johnny B. Goode (Berry)
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ray Collins (vocals, falsetto), Paul Buff (piano, sax), FZ (guitar, bass, drums) - recording of "Tell Me" (Williams) and "Love Of My Life" (FZ/Aerni).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ray Collins (vocals), Ronnie Williams (guitar), Paul Buff (bass, guitar, sax?), FZ (drums) - recording of "Deseri" (Collins/Buff) ( later appeared on The Grandmothers' "Looking Up Granny's Dress", 1982).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ron Roman (vocals) - recording of "Tell Me" (Williams) and "Love Of My Life" (FZ/Aerni).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Produced by Art Laboe - The Penguins: Cleve Duncan (vocals), Walter Saulsberry (vocals), The Viceroys: James Conwell (vocals), Andrew "Jack" White (vocals), Charles Jones (vocals), Oliver Williams (vocals), Herbert White (vocals) + FZ (vibes) - recording of "Memories of El Monte" (FZ/Collins).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ray Collins (vocals), Paul Buff (snorks, saxes, piano?), Dick Barber (snorks?), FZ (guitars, bass, drums?) - recording of "How's Your Bird?" and "The World's Greatest Sinner".
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Bob Guy (vocals), FZ (probably all instruments and sound effects) - recording of "Dear Jeepers" and "Letter From Jeepers".
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Benny Rodriguez (vocals), Joe Rodriguez (vocals), FZ (lead guitar), Max Uballez (rhythm guitar), Richard Provincio (piano), Armando Mora (tenor sax), Chris Pasqual (bass), Manuel Mosqueda (drums) - recording of "Everytime I See You" (FZ/Collins).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Produced by FZ & Paul Buff - Brian Lord (vocals), FZ (various instruments & sound effects), Paul Buff (probably various instruments & sound effects too) - recording of "The Big Surfer".
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ray Collins (vocals), FZ (probably all instruments & backing vocals), ? (sax) - recording of "Hey, Nelda" (FZ/Collins) and "Surf Along" (FZ/Collins).
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Ray Collins (vocals), Paul Buff (fuzz bass), FZ (guitars, bass, keyboards, drums) - recording of "Fountain Of Love" (FZ/Collins) - recording of "Any Way The Wind Blows".
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - FZ (guitars, bass, drums), Paul Buff (saxes?) - recording of "Grunion Run".
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Mr. Clean (lead vocals, harmonica?), Unknown girl (background vocals), Paul Buff (fuzz bass), FZ (most instruments, vocals) - recording of "Mr. Clean" and "Jessie Lee".
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| − | March 14, 1963 (aired March 27) - Steve Allen Show, Channel 5 - FZ (bicycle), Steve Allen (bicycle), Johnny Jacobs (poetry) + Instrumental Ensemble
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| − | Pre-recorded Tape - "Concerto For Two Bicycles".
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| − | 1963, Ron Roman - "Love Of My Life" (FZ/Aerni) / "Tell Me" (Williams) (Daani 101)
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| − | April 8, 1963 - The Penguins - "Memories of El Monte" (FZ/Collins) / "Be Mine" (Day/Nelson) (OS 27)
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| − | April 8, 1963 - Baby Ray & The Ferns - "How's Your Bird?" / "The World's Greatest Sinner" (Donna 1378)
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| − | April, 1963 - Bob Guy - "Dear Jeepers" / "Letter From Jeepers" (Donna 1380)
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| − | April, 1963 - The Heartbreakers - "Everytime I See You" (FZ/Collins) / "Cradle Rock" (Galleger) (Donna 1381)
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| − | May 19, 1963 - The Experimental Music of Frank Zappa - Mount St. Mary's College, LA - "Variables II for Orchestra", "Variables I for Any Five Instruments", "Opus 5, for Four Orchestras" (parts on [[Mount St. Mary's Concert Excerpt]]), "Rehearsalism", "Three Pieces of Visual Music with Jazz Group".
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| − | May, 1963 - Brian Lord & The Midnighters - "The Big Surfer" / "Not Another One" (Aerni/Buff) (Vigah 001)
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| − | May 27, 1963 - Brian Lord & The Midnighters - "The Big Surfer" / "Not Another One" (Aerni/Buff) (Capitol 4981)
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| − | June, 1963 - Ned & Nelda - "Hey, Nelda" (FZ/Collins) / "Surf Along" (FZ/Collins) (Vigah 002)
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| − | July, 1963 - The Hollywood Persuaders - "Tijuana" (Buff) / "Grunion Run" (OS 39)
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| − | August, 1963 - Mr. Clean - "Mr. Clean" / "Jessie Lee" (OS 40)
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| − | August, 1963 - The Rotations - "Heavies" (Aerni/Buff) / "The Cruncher" (Aerni/Buff) (OS 41)
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| − | c. 1963 - Sin City Boys - Ray Collins (vocals), FZ (guitar) - recording of "Joe The Puny Greaser" ("Puff The Magic Dragon") and "Streets Of Fontana" ("Streets Of Laredo")
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| − | c. 1963 - The Troubadour - Loeb & Leopold: Ray Collins (vocals), FZ (guitar)
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| − | c. summer 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Don Van Vliet (vocals), FZ (guitar), Alex Snouffer (guitar)?, Vic Mortenson (drums)? - recording of "Slippin' And Slidin'" (Penniman)
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| − | c. summer 1963 or c. March, 1964, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Don Van Vliet (vocals), FZ (guitar), Alex Snouffer (guitar)?, Vic Mortenson (drums)? - recording of "Cheryl's Canon" (?), "Evil" (Burnett), "The Grund" (?), and "Vicious Intentions" (?)
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| − | c. 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - FZ (all instruments & vocals) - recording of "Charva".
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| − | 1963, Run Home, Slow (OS) - Art Laboe's Original Sound Studios, LA, CA, Engineered by Paul Buff: "Run Home Slow Theme", "Run Home Cues #2", "Run Home Cues #3", "The original Duke Of Prunes", "Right There", "The Little March".
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| − | c. 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - recording of "Why Don't You Do Me Right?" and "Take Your Clothes Off"?
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| − | c. 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - FZ (guitar), Doug Moon (acoustic guitar) - recording of "Speed-Freak Boogie".
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| − | September 19, 1963 - Dot Records reject The Soots' master with "Any Way The Wind Blows" and "Slippin' And Slidin'" among others.
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| − | 1963, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Produced by Curry & Irvin - Conrad & The Hurricane Strings: Conrad Couwenberg (guitar), Ed Sigarlaki (guitar), Don Sigarlaki (bass), Patrick Couwenberg (drums) - recording of "Hurricane" (Sigarlaki) (intro heard in "Bit of Nostalgia") and "Sweet Love" (Sigarlaki).
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| − | December, 1963 - Conrad & The Hurricane Strings - "Hurricane" (Sigarlaki) / "Sweet Love" (Sigarlaki) (Daytone 6401)
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| − | c. March, 1964, Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA - Don Van Vliet (vocals), FZ (guitar), Alex Snouffer (guitar)?, Janschi (bass), Vic Mortenson (drums) - recording of "Tiger Roach" (Van Vliet/FZ), "Metal Man Has Won His Wings" (Van Vliet/FZ), and "I'm Your Nasty Shadow" (?).
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| − | May 10, 1964 - The name of the band is changed officialy to Mothers
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| − | 1964 - FZ moves to Pal Studio, Cucamonga, CA
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| − | August 1, 1964 - FZ buys Pal Studio from Paul Buff and renames it as Studio Z
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| − | August 1, 1964 - Studio Z, Cucamonga, CA - Don Van Vliet, Laurie, Ray Collins, Jim Sherwood, Bob Narciso - recording of "Opening Night At Studio Z"
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| − | c. September, 1964 - FZ sets up the plot & scenery for "Captain Beefheart vs. The Grunt People"
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| − | c. 1964 - The Saints 'N Sinners, Ontario, CA - The Muthers: FZ (guitar, vocals), Paul Woods (bass), Les Papp (drums) - recording of "Power Trio from 'The Saint & Sinners'"
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| − | 1964 - "I Was A Teen-age Malt Shop" (Rock Opera) - Studio Z, Cucamonga, CA - FZ (piano, guitar, bass, vocals), Don Van Vliet (vocals), Allison Buff (vocals), Jim Sherwood (acoustic guitar), Vic Mortenson (drums) - recording of "The Birth of Captain Beefheart", "I Was A Teen-age Malt Shop", "Status Back Baby", "Ned The Mumbler", "Ned Has A Brainstorm" (aka "Toads Of The Short Forest").
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| − | December 2, 1964 - KNXT rejects the "I Was A Teen-age Malt Shop" outline
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