User talk:Duncan - Revision history

Jason.Kreitzer: Never mind, I figured it out.

2026-04-20T21:47:54Z

Never mind, I figured it out.

Jason.Kreitzer: /* Problem Editing "Cheeper Than Cheep" */ new section

2026-04-20T21:44:38Z

Problem Editing "Cheeper Than Cheep": new section

Jason.Kreitzer at 06:29, 8 January 2023

2023-01-08T06:29:37Z

Jason.Kreitzer at 02:37, 5 January 2023

2023-01-05T02:37:32Z

Maroual: /* Webp format */

2022-11-06T22:48:51Z

Webp format

Maroual: /* Webp format */ new section

2022-11-06T22:48:20Z

Webp format: new section

Jason.Kreitzer at 05:22, 7 January 2022

2022-01-07T05:22:29Z

Jason.Kreitzer at 05:17, 7 January 2022

2022-01-07T05:17:08Z

Jason.Kreitzer: /* "Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?" */ new section

2022-01-06T20:54:59Z

"Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?": new section

Duncan: /* What's the deal with the "Dead-end pages" page? */

2021-12-28T22:49:07Z

What's the deal with the "Dead-end pages" page?

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−	~~== Problem Editing "Cheeper Than Cheep" ==~~
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−	I tried to add the standard album history infobox to [[Cheaper Than Cheep]] but, unlike any other album pages, it doesn't work. For some reason the album cover doesn't show up in the infobox. What is wrong and how can this be fixed? Thank you. [[User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] ([[User talk:Jason.Kreitzer\|talk]]) 14:44, 20 April 2026 (PDT)

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		+	== Problem Editing "Cheeper Than Cheep" ==
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		+	I tried to add the standard album history infobox to [[Cheaper Than Cheep]] but, unlike any other album pages, it doesn't work. For some reason the album cover doesn't show up in the infobox. What is wrong and how can this be fixed? Thank you. [[User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] ([[User talk:Jason.Kreitzer\|talk]]) 14:44, 20 April 2026 (PDT)

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 == ZAPPA redirect ==
-Somehow only the talk page at the [[ZAPPA]] redirect was deleted.  Since the redirect is causing problems, could you please delete that too? [[User:PopFanDoug|PopFanDoug]] ([[User talk:PopFanDoug|talk]]) 15:47, 1 March 2021 (PST)
+Somehow only the talk page at the ZAPPA redirect was deleted.  Since the redirect is causing problems, could you please delete that too? [[User:PopFanDoug|PopFanDoug]] ([[User talk:PopFanDoug|talk]]) 15:47, 1 March 2021 (PST)
 == Non-FZ edits ==

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 == Song vs Track, ie Orange Claw Hammer ==
-Duncan, I'm being a Big Pane In Your Window.<br>What's the difference between a Track and a Song? By the wiki layout definition I'm on a Track Page here at [[Orange Claw Hammer]], talking about one Song (written & performed by [[Captain Beefheart]]) released in two Track Versions, one played only by the [[Magic Band]] and produced by FZ (on a [[Side Project]]/Beefheart album), the other played by Beefheart (on a Beefheart compilation) that 'features' FZ on guitar.<br>It's also a Track (the original) that also appears on the Beefheart compilation [[The Dust Blows Forward: An Anthology]] that contains Bongo Fury tracks. On this wiki's [[Bongo Fury]] page the Tracks are referred to as Tracks, while on the [[Trout Mask Replica]] page they're Songs but, if you click the Song [[The Blimp]], it's a Track page... I'm confused, but think [[Orange Claw Hammer]] is now almost there. Do semantics divide Us or Them?<br>PS: Before anyone says it, I think a Song is a set of Lyrics (with musical annotation) & a Track is a musical/audio interpretation of that Song (or words to that effect). --[[User:Tonefish|Tonefish]] 08:00, 17 May 2008 (PDT)
+Duncan, I'm being a Big Pane In Your Window.<br>What's the difference between a Track and a Song? By the wiki layout definition I'm on a Track Page here at [[Orange Claw Hammer]], talking about one Song (written & performed by [[Captain Beefheart]]) released in two Track Versions, one played only by the [[Magic Band]] and produced by FZ (on a Side Project/Beefheart album), the other played by Beefheart (on a Beefheart compilation) that 'features' FZ on guitar.<br>It's also a Track (the original) that also appears on the Beefheart compilation [[The Dust Blows Forward: An Anthology]] that contains Bongo Fury tracks. On this wiki's [[Bongo Fury]] page the Tracks are referred to as Tracks, while on the [[Trout Mask Replica]] page they're Songs but, if you click the Song [[The Blimp]], it's a Track page... I'm confused, but think [[Orange Claw Hammer]] is now almost there. Do semantics divide Us or Them?<br>PS: Before anyone says it, I think a Song is a set of Lyrics (with musical annotation) & a Track is a musical/audio interpretation of that Song (or words to that effect). --[[User:Tonefish|Tonefish]] 08:00, 17 May 2008 (PDT)
 :Welcome to the [http://www.killuglyradio.com/forum/index.php?topic=574.0 never ending discussion]  The wiki is slowly evolving into some useful form but still has some way to go.  You make valid points which, I am sure, will be addressed someday but for now I would go for content over semantics. [[User:Duncan|Duncan]] 12:11, 17 May 2008 (PDT)

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 Hello,
 It's been a while ^^
 Can you please avoid uploading . webp images? For some unknown reason, it seems that this format is not supported by the system anymore.
 It took me some time to realize that 2 of these .webp images were causing permanent errors in 2 wiki pages and in 1 admin page.
 And fixing this is quite complex.
 Thank you
 [[User:Maroual|Maroual]] ([[User talk:Maroual|talk]]) 14:48, 6 November 2022 (PST)

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	::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)		::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)
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		+	== Webp format ==
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		+	Hello,
		+	It's been a while ^^
		+	Can you please avoid uploading . webp images? For some unknown reason, it seems that this format is not supported by the system anymore.
		+	It took me some time to realize that 2 of these .webp images were causing permanent errors in 2 wiki pages and in 1 admin page.
		+	And fixing this is quite complex.
		+	Thank you
		+	[[User:Maroual\|Maroual]] ([[User talk:Maroual\|talk]]) 14:48, 6 November 2022 (PST)

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	::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)		::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)
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−	~~== "Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?" ==~~
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−	When I created the page for ''[[200 Motels 50th Anniversary Edition]]'', I added it to the [[:Category:Box Set Albums\|Box Set Albums]] category. However, we have ''[[Halloween 73]]'', ''[[Halloween 77]]'', ''[[The Hot Rats Sessions]]'', ''[[The Mothers 1970]]'', ''[[The Roxy Performances]]'', ''[[Zappa In New York 40th Anniversary Deluxe Edition]]'', and ''[[Halloween 81]]'' all in the [[:Category:Original Albums\|Original Albums]] category, even though they are clearly box sets. Where is the line that separates "Original Albums" from "Box Set Albums," and should the six I just named be moved to the "Box Set Albums" category? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 1/6/2022 3:52 PM.

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	== "Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?" ==		== "Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?" ==

−	When I created the page for ''[[200 Motels 50th Anniversary Edition]]'', I added it to the [[:Category:Box Set Albums\|Box Set Albums]] category. However, we have ''[[Halloween 73]]'', ''[[Halloween 77]]'', ''[[The Hot Rats Sessions]]'', ''[[The Mothers 1970]]'', ''[[The Roxy Performances]]'' and ''[[Halloween 81]]'' all in the [[:Category:Original Albums\|Original Albums]] category, even though they are clearly box sets. Where is the line that separates "Original Albums" from "Box Set Albums," and should the six I just named be moved to the "Box Set Albums" category? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 1/6/2022 3:52 PM.	+	When I created the page for ''[[200 Motels 50th Anniversary Edition]]'', I added it to the [[:Category:Box Set Albums\|Box Set Albums]] category. However, we have ''[[Halloween 73]]'', ''[[Halloween 77]]'', ''[[The Hot Rats Sessions]]'', ''[[The Mothers 1970]]'', ''[[The Roxy Performances]]'', ''[[Zappa In New York 40th Anniversary Deluxe Edition]]'', and ''[[Halloween 81]]'' all in the [[:Category:Original Albums\|Original Albums]] category, even though they are clearly box sets. Where is the line that separates "Original Albums" from "Box Set Albums," and should the six I just named be moved to the "Box Set Albums" category? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 1/6/2022 3:52 PM.

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	::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)		::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)
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		+	== "Original Albums" vs. "Box Set Albums?" ==
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		+	When I created the page for ''[[200 Motels 50th Anniversary Edition]]'', I added it to the [[:Category:Box Set Albums\|Box Set Albums]] category. However, we have ''[[Halloween 73]]'', ''[[Halloween 77]]'', ''[[The Hot Rats Sessions]]'', ''[[The Mothers 1970]]'', ''[[The Roxy Performances]]'' and ''[[Halloween 81]]'' all in the [[:Category:Original Albums\|Original Albums]] category, even though they are clearly box sets. Where is the line that separates "Original Albums" from "Box Set Albums," and should the six I just named be moved to the "Box Set Albums" category? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 1/6/2022 3:52 PM.

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	It's supposedly a list of pages that aren't linked to anywhere else, except many of them ''are'' linked to other pages. "Orphaned pages" actually aren't linked to anywhere else, so what purpose does the "Dead-end pages" list serve? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 12/28/2021 3:17 PM.		It's supposedly a list of pages that aren't linked to anywhere else, except many of them ''are'' linked to other pages. "Orphaned pages" actually aren't linked to anywhere else, so what purpose does the "Dead-end pages" list serve? Thank you. - [[:User:Jason.Kreitzer\|Jason.Kreitzer]] 12/28/2021 3:17 PM.
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		+	::Orphaned pages exist in isolation without anything linking to them. Dead End pages do not have any links on them to anywhere else - so they are a dead end and you can only go back to where you came from. I guess most of them are ripe for deletion.
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		+	::Please do not waste too much time on any scrappy stubby pages as they will either be deleted or amalgamated into another article - and then deleted.
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		+	::I am working on the principle that every page is called Frank Zappa and... (whatever the page is actually called). If there is no substantial FZ connection it does not belong here. If there is a semblance of an FZ connection it can probably be merged into another article where it would have more significance. [[User:Duncan\|Duncan]] ([[User talk:Duncan\|talk]]) 14:49, 28 December 2021 (PST)