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		<title>Spider of Destiny at 20:49, 19 November 2020</title>
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		<title>Propellerkuh at 17:50, 21 January 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;By Frank Zappa&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Record Mirror, January 17th, 1970&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Does the &amp;quot;underground scene&amp;quot; in pop music really mean anything right now? Was it just a title tag – a hook to apply to one section of the business? One man who does understand the &amp;quot;underground&amp;quot; is Frank Zappa ... and he&amp;#039;s been talking. Again.&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;He addressed the first International Music Industry Conference. And said:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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A lot of the underground acts don&amp;#039;t care about making a hit record. They&amp;#039;re interested in artistic expression. The underground sounds are raw. But the Industry should remember that the music sounds that way because of the environment the kids live in.&lt;br /&gt;
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They are a different kind of person. Some of their bodies are chemically altered and they have leisure-time activities that would be very foreign to record company executives. They have a concept of music as an art. Most A and R people don&amp;#039;t know anything about music, but look for the commercial potential.&lt;br /&gt;
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You should care about the artistic merit. You call our music noise, but don&amp;#039;t bother to look underneath it for the chords or melody lines. You don&amp;#039;t understand the underground&amp;#039;s music – there is definitely a musical generation gap.&lt;br /&gt;
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The gap is an expression of fear on the part of older people. There&amp;#039;s a feeling that the young kids are out to get you and this colours the way record companies treat underground acts. Companies don&amp;#039;t like or understand us. Some companies send out a &amp;quot;company hippie&amp;quot; as a pacifier for groups. He has little or no power, but he will turn on with the group and he might even be their connection.&lt;br /&gt;
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Then, maybe, he goes to the office and reports on the &amp;quot;creeps&amp;quot;. The underground has unflattering names, too. It will take more than a &amp;quot;company hippie&amp;quot; to bridge the generation gap.&lt;br /&gt;
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There aren&amp;#039;t any courses on underground music. In fact, the groups are using techniques that the schools say are forbidden in composition because they don&amp;#039;t sound good. Parallel fifths and parallel octaves are a moving sonic experience. In spite of the schools, most pop groups are crawling with them.&lt;br /&gt;
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The record companies have got to learn to understand the new music. So far, they still don&amp;#039;t like or understand the acts. But there&amp;#039;s a way out. The executives could go down and sweat with the kids in the psychedelic dungeons.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now groups have been trying to top each other in hours spent in the studio. But there is a change in attitude. There will be live recordings again, with fewer overdubs and getting away from the track by track concept.&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&amp;#039;t believe in obscenity or pornography as a concept. But dealers should stock records with questionable material on them. Frankly I think it would be a good idea for executives to help explain to people that the word &amp;quot;----&amp;quot; on a record won&amp;#039;t kill them.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Footnote:&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Zappa&amp;#039;s speech is in the Complete Report of The First International Music Industry Conference, published by Billboard Publications, edited by Paul Ackerman and Lee Zhito.&lt;br /&gt;
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