Them Or Us (The Book) - Revision history

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 [[Image:Them_Or_Us_book.jpg|right|frame|Front cover for "Them Or Us"]] __NOTOC__
-'''''Them or Us''''' is a book written by FZ, initially published by [[Barfko-Swill]] (Los Angeles) in 1984 (no ISBN), containing 351 pages.
+'''''Them or Us''''' is a book written by FZ, initially published by [[Barfko-Swill]] (Los Angeles) in 1984 (no ISBN), containing 351 pages. As noted on the cover: This book used to be called '''Christmas in New Jersey'''.
 A 360-page paperback edition was published by Pinter & Martin in 2010 (ISBN 978-1-905177-56-1).
-The front cover is from the same session as the cover of ''[[True Glove]]''. The album covers on the back of the original issue are: ''[[Francesco Zappa]]'', ''[[Them Or Us]]'', ''[[Thing-Fish]]'' and ''[[The Old Masters, Box I|The Old Masters]]''.
+The front cover is from the same session as the cover of ''[[True Glove]]''. The album covers on the back of the original issue, and reproduced as the last page in the 2010 edition, are: ''[[Francesco Zappa]]'', ''[[Them Or Us]]'', ''[[Thing-Fish]]'' and ''[[The Old Masters, Box I|The Old Masters]]''.
 ==The Index==

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-[[Image:Them_Or_Us_book.jpg|right|frame|Book cover for "Them Or Us"]] __NOTOC__
+[[Image:Them_Or_Us_book.jpg|right|frame|Front cover for "Them Or Us"]] __NOTOC__
-'''''Them or Us''''' is the first book written by FZ, initially published by [[Barfko-Swill]] (Los Angeles) in 1984 (no ISBN), containing 351 pages.
+'''''Them or Us''''' is a book written by FZ, initially published by [[Barfko-Swill]] (Los Angeles) in 1984 (no ISBN), containing 351 pages.
-A 360-page paperback edition will be released by [http://www.pinterandmartin.com Pinter & Martin] on December 21<sup>st</sup> 2010 (ISBN 978-1-905177-56-1).
+A 360-page paperback edition was published by Pinter & Martin in 2010 (ISBN 978-1-905177-56-1).
-The book is written in quasi-screenplay style and contains tons of [[Conceptual Continuity Clues concept|conceptual continuity clues]]. It is partly narrated by [[Francesco Zappa (CC)|Francesco Zappa]].
+The front cover is from the same session as the cover of ''[[True Glove]]''. The album covers on the back of the original issue are: ''[[Francesco Zappa]]'', ''[[Them Or Us]]'', ''[[Thing-Fish]]'' and ''[[The Old Masters, Box I|The Old Masters]]''.
-Among others, ''Them or Us'' contains the lyrics to "[[Flambay]]", "[[Spider Of Destiny]]" and "[[Time Is Money]]". These songs were originally issued as instrumentals on "[[Sleep Dirt]]", versions with lyrics were supposed to be part of the (unproduced) "[[Hunchentoot]]" stage play.
+<blockquote>"This cheesy little home-made book was prepared for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music. It is not for intellectuals or other dead people. It is designed to answer one of the more troubling questions related to [[:Category:Conceptual Continuity|conceptual continuity]]: 'How do all of these things that don't have anything to do with each other fit together, forming a larger absurdity?' Your enjoyment of the contents could be anhanced by hearing some of the music described in the text. The albums shown on the back cover contain some of these songs. Other songs derive from ''[[Joe's Garage Acts I, II & III|Joe's Garage]]'' and ''[[Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch]]''. This is a story book. It is not a rock & roll biography. This is the only REAL & OFFICIAL FRANK ZAPPA BOOK. All other books attempting to trade on my name are unauthorized and full of misinformation. This book is dedicated to all of the fans who have made the last 20 years of large-scale absurdities possible. This book used to be called ''Christmas In New Jersey" - foreword to "Them or Us"</blockquote>
 ==The Index==

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 The album covers on the back of the book are: ''[[Francesco Zappa]]'', ''[[Them Or Us]]'', ''[[Thing-Fish]]'' and ''[[The Old Masters, Box I|The Old Masters]]''.
-The front cover is that photo from ''[[True Glove]]'' with FZ and his oven mitten.
+The front cover is that photo from ''[[True Glove]]'' with FZ and his oven mitten.  It is a parody of how [[Michael Jackson]] famously wore one glove.
 ==The Index==

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 From the foreword of ''Them or Us'':
-<blockquote>This cheesy little home-made book was prepared for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music. It is not for intellectuals or other dead people. It is designed to answer one of the more troubling questions related to [[:Category:Conceptual Continuity|conceptual continuity]]: 'How do all of these things that don't have anything to do with each other fit together, forming a larger absurdity?' Your enjoyment of the contents could be anhanced by hearing some of the music described in the text. The albums shown on the back cover contain some of these songs. Other songs derive from ''[[Joe's Garage Acts I, II & III|Joe's Garage]]'' and ''[[Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch]]''. This is a story book. It is not a rock & roll biography. This is the only REAL & OFFICIAL FRANK ZAPPA BOOK. All other books attempting to trade on my name are unauthorized and full of misinformation. This book is dedicated to all of the fans who have made the last 20 years of large-scale absurdities possible. This book used to be called ''[[Christmas In New Jersey]]''.</blockquote>
+<blockquote>This cheesy little home-made book was prepared for the amusement of people who already enjoy Zappa music. It is not for intellectuals or other dead people. It is designed to answer one of the more troubling questions related to [[:Category:Conceptual Continuity|conceptual continuity]]: 'How do all of these things that don't have anything to do with each other fit together, forming a larger absurdity?' Your enjoyment of the contents could be anhanced by hearing some of the music described in the text. The albums shown on the back cover contain some of these songs. Other songs derive from ''[[Joe's Garage Acts I, II & III|Joe's Garage]]'' and ''[[Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch]]''. This is a story book. It is not a rock & roll biography. This is the only REAL & OFFICIAL FRANK ZAPPA BOOK. All other books attempting to trade on my name are unauthorized and full of misinformation. This book is dedicated to all of the fans who have made the last 20 years of large-scale absurdities possible. This book used to be called ''Christmas In New Jersey''.</blockquote>
 ==Cover Art==

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	Among others, ''Them or Us'' contains the lyrics to "[[Flambay]]", "[[Spider Of Destiny]]" and "[[Time Is Money]]". These songs were originally issued as instrumentals on "[[Sleep Dirt]]", versions with lyrics were supposed to be part of the (unproduced) "[[Hunchentoot]]" stage play.		Among others, ''Them or Us'' contains the lyrics to "[[Flambay]]", "[[Spider Of Destiny]]" and "[[Time Is Money]]". These songs were originally issued as instrumentals on "[[Sleep Dirt]]", versions with lyrics were supposed to be part of the (unproduced) "[[Hunchentoot]]" stage play.

−	It also contains the complete script of Zappa's musical ''[[Thing-Fish]]''. Large parts of the lyrics in the book (and the record) are written in "[...] a pseudo-negrocious dialect, originated by an actor named [[Tim Moore]] in the TV version of ‘[[AMOS & ANDY~~\|Amos & Andy~~]]’. He was severely punished for it." (Stage character "Frank", page 262.)	+	It also contains the complete script of Zappa's musical ''[[Thing-Fish]]''. Large parts of the lyrics in the book (and the record) are written in "[...] a pseudo-negrocious dialect, originated by an actor named [[Tim Moore]] in the TV version of ‘[[Amos & Andy\|AMOS & ANDY]]’. He was severely punished for it." (Stage character "Frank", page 262.)