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 But in tow with this thorough and wise suspicion of anything offered as the one and only way comes an equally thorough suspicion of anything offered as the latest and greatest. Specifically, punk.
-He says that there are things from the 60's that equal or surpass what's heard today, citing [[Sky Saxon And The Seeds]] and early Kingsmen as examples. Mention the popular youth movement theory though, and what was expressed in euphemisms above, but what I will now call cynicism, begins to show:
+He says that there are things from the 60's that equal or surpass what's heard today, citing [[The Seeds|Sky Saxon And The Seeds]] and early Kingsmen as examples. Mention the popular youth movement theory though, and what was expressed in euphemisms above, but what I will now call cynicism, begins to show:
 "The motivations – to judge from what I've read or heard in conversation with people in the business about the way some of these groups have been put together -have nothing to do with the pseudo-social or pseudo-political ideals expressed by its practitioners.

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 So did America learn anything from the cultural upheavals of the '60s?
-"They haven't learned some of the most important lessons of the '60s. The single most important one I think is that [[LSD]] was a scam promoted by the [[CIA]] and that the people in Haight-Ashbury who were idols of people across the world as examples of revolution and outrage and progress were mere dupes of the CIA.
+"They haven't learned some of the most important lessons of the '60s. The single most important one I think is that [[LSD]] was a scam promoted by the [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] and that the people in Haight-Ashbury who were idols of people across the world as examples of revolution and outrage and progress were mere dupes of the CIA.
 "Millions were being used for a drug experiment that was being conducted without their knowledge by a government agency, with the utmost disregard for human beings."

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 Here, however, the precise scam becomes lost in a flurry of law suits, threats and machinations. [[Läther]] remains unreleased. The fate of "[[Zappa In New York|Live In New York]]" is undecided due to some defamatory material included therein about a certain Punky Meadows.
-It seems that [[Terry Bozzio]], Zappa's spirited drummer, harbours a perverse fascination for [[Punky Meadows]], lead guitarist with Angel, who are Casablanca's attempt to reach the kids who find [[Kiss]] too gross and any stray [[Queen]] fans with more bucks than sense in one fell swoop.
+It seems that [[Terry Bozzio]], Zappa's spirited drummer, harbours a perverse fascination for [[Punky Meadows]], lead guitarist with Angel, who are Casablanca's attempt to reach the kids who find [[Wikipedia:Kiss (band)|Kiss]] too gross and any stray [[Queen]] fans with more bucks than sense in one fell swoop.
 Bozzio, formerly a quiet jazz type, was so struck by a photo of Punky in the adonis pose favoured by groups of that nature that he took to emulating this over-the-shoulder pout position in various awkward circumstances. He has lately been seen on stage sporting S&M gear replete with fido studs and butt strap.

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 Describing the scope and portent of Zappa's output microcosm to the unprepared could take weeks. Let's just say he combines the aesthetic considerations of a contemporary composer with occasional acid social commentary and a manifestly bizarre sense of humour.
-His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "[[Three Hours Past Midnight]]", [[Don And Dewey]]'s "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and [[The Paragons]]' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is [[Bulgaria]]n folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
+His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "[[Three Hours Past Midnight]]", [[Don & Dewey]]'s "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and [[The Paragons]]' "[[Can I Come Over Tonight]]?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is [[Bulgaria]]n folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
 "I was riding in the car and I turned the knob on the radio and heard this song," he reflects, obviously groaning inwardly at having to repeat what by now must be a well-worn story. "It was 'I' by [[The Velvets]]" – not Underground – "and it sounded fabulous. My parents insisted it be dismissed from the radio and I knew I was onto something ..."

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	"Absolutely. And not only that, I think being a cynic is the only rational stance to take in a contemporary society. I would call it quite a compliment to be called an arch cynic; that almost sounds important. Definitely I'm cynical. Everybody ought to be cynical. You can't just go around believing everything everybody tells you ...		"Absolutely. And not only that, I think being a cynic is the only rational stance to take in a contemporary society. I would call it quite a compliment to be called an arch cynic; that almost sounds important. Definitely I'm cynical. Everybody ought to be cynical. You can't just go around believing everything everybody tells you ...
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 Describing the scope and portent of Zappa's output microcosm to the unprepared could take weeks. Let's just say he combines the aesthetic considerations of a contemporary composer with occasional acid social commentary and a manifestly bizarre sense of humour.
-His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "Three Hours Past Midnight", Don And Dewey's "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and [[The Paragons]]' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is Bulgarian folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
+His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "[[Three Hours Past Midnight]]", [[Don And Dewey]]'s "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and [[The Paragons]]' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is [[Bulgaria]]n folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
 "I was riding in the car and I turned the knob on the radio and heard this song," he reflects, obviously groaning inwardly at having to repeat what by now must be a well-worn story. "It was 'I' by [[The Velvets]]" – not Underground – "and it sounded fabulous. My parents insisted it be dismissed from the radio and I knew I was onto something ..."
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 But never mind. Not wishing to put both feet in it right from the start, I switch tracks and ask how he deals with complaints from feminists in this quarter.
-"I'm saying simply this: it's as much of a hype as punk rock as far as I'm concerned. Some of the things they wish to achieve are quite noble, but I resent the manner in which they are being advertised.
+"I'm saying simply this: it's as much of a hype as [[punk]] rock as far as I'm concerned. Some of the things they wish to achieve are quite noble, but I resent the manner in which they are being advertised.
 "It's not the ideals, it's the packaging. I find it repulsive and think it's an insult to men and demeaning to women."
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 But in tow with this thorough and wise suspicion of anything offered as the one and only way comes an equally thorough suspicion of anything offered as the latest and greatest. Specifically, punk.
-He says that there are things from the 60's that equal or surpass what's heard today, citing Sky Saxon And The Seeds and early Kingsmen as examples. Mention the popular youth movement theory though, and what was expressed in euphemisms above, but what I will now call cynicism, begins to show:
+He says that there are things from the 60's that equal or surpass what's heard today, citing [[Sky Saxon And The Seeds]] and early Kingsmen as examples. Mention the popular youth movement theory though, and what was expressed in euphemisms above, but what I will now call cynicism, begins to show:
 "The motivations – to judge from what I've read or heard in conversation with people in the business about the way some of these groups have been put together -have nothing to do with the pseudo-social or pseudo-political ideals expressed by its practitioners.
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 "The whole thing was a money-making venture right from the start, if not for the group then for the boutique owner who is packaging the thing.
-"Punk rock is a phenomenon manufactured by managers.
+"[[Punk]] rock is a phenomenon manufactured by managers.
 "Rock has become a fact of life in the States," he continues, lighting another Winston and speaking with the steady authority, often misinterpreted as arrogance, that seems to underline his presence. "It may be a fact of life in England too, but on a completely different level; the meaning of the facts of life here is radically different from those same facts in the States.

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 Here, however, the precise scam becomes lost in a flurry of law suits, threats and machinations. [[Läther]] remains unreleased. The fate of "[[Zappa In New York|Live In New York]]" is undecided due to some defamatory material included therein about a certain Punky Meadows.
-It seems that [[Terry Bozzio]], Zappa's spirited drummer, harbours a perverse fascination for Punky Meadows, lead guitarist with Angel, who are Casablanca's attempt to reach the kids who find Kiss too gross and any stray Queen fans with more bucks than sense in one fell swoop.
+It seems that [[Terry Bozzio]], Zappa's spirited drummer, harbours a perverse fascination for [[Punky Meadows]], lead guitarist with Angel, who are Casablanca's attempt to reach the kids who find [[Kiss]] too gross and any stray [[Queen]] fans with more bucks than sense in one fell swoop.
 Bozzio, formerly a quiet jazz type, was so struck by a photo of Punky in the adonis pose favoured by groups of that nature that he took to emulating this over-the-shoulder pout position in various awkward circumstances. He has lately been seen on stage sporting S&M gear replete with fido studs and butt strap.
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 Impasse. Zappa's not about to co-operate with Warners. Any attempt to sign with another company would be blocked by Warners. It could be between three and five years before Zappa's case is dealt with due to the long civil court waiting lists in California.
-Also shelved for the time being is a TV special Zappa made. Described as a combination of advanced video editing techniques, animation and live performance, it has been shown in France, Switzerland and Germany, but ongoing litigation between Zappa and his previous manager, [[Herb Cohen]], reduces its present chances of being shown here or in the States, even presuming the TV companies would take it.
+Also shelved for the time being is a TV special Zappa made. Described as a combination of advanced video editing techniques, animation and live performance, it has been shown in [[France]], [[Switzerland]] and [[Germany]], but ongoing litigation between Zappa and his previous manager, [[Herb Cohen]], reduces its present chances of being shown here or in the States, even presuming the TV companies would take it.
 All in all, not the best situations for the modern-day composer.
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 The prospect of not being able to release any new material doesn't trouble him. "I can still record", he points out – making clear by his tone that he considers this an undeniable imperative – "and I can still tour. So that's what I am going to do".
 Describing the scope and portent of Zappa's output microcosm to the unprepared could take weeks. Let's just say he combines the aesthetic considerations of a contemporary composer with occasional acid social commentary and a manifestly bizarre sense of humour.
-His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "Three Hours Past Midnight", Don And Dewey's "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and The Paragons' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is Bulgarian folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
+His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "Three Hours Past Midnight", Don And Dewey's "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and [[The Paragons]]' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is Bulgarian folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
 "I was riding in the car and I turned the knob on the radio and heard this song," he reflects, obviously groaning inwardly at having to repeat what by now must be a well-worn story. "It was 'I' by [[The Velvets]]" – not Underground – "and it sounded fabulous. My parents insisted it be dismissed from the radio and I knew I was onto something ..."
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 So did America learn anything from the cultural upheavals of the '60s?
-"They haven't learned some of the most important lessons of the '60s. The single most important one I think is that LSD was a scam promoted by the CIA and that the people in Haight-Ashbury who were idols of people across the world as examples of revolution and outrage and progress were mere dupes of the CIA.
+"They haven't learned some of the most important lessons of the '60s. The single most important one I think is that [[LSD]] was a scam promoted by the [[CIA]] and that the people in Haight-Ashbury who were idols of people across the world as examples of revolution and outrage and progress were mere dupes of the CIA.
 "Millions were being used for a drug experiment that was being conducted without their knowledge by a government agency, with the utmost disregard for human beings."
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 Even considering the fact that in the early '60s experiments went on California to determine the effects of LSD and any possible military applications thereof, this is all just a little hard to swallow ...
-"That's because you're not in America. I think the way you visualise it is one day the Queen gets an idea that she would give LSD to the people here – ah, that could never happen. But the way I see it is that those crooks who wind up being president of the United States and the other smart little persons they have working for them will do anything. They believe that they are the law."
+"That's because you're not in America. I think the way you visualise it is one day [[The Queen]] gets an idea that she would give LSD to the people here – ah, that could never happen. But the way I see it is that those crooks who wind up being president of the United States and the other smart little persons they have working for them will do anything. They believe that they are the law."
 Smothers, Zappa's bald, burly bodyguard, has for the past few minutes been hovering surreptitiously in the background. He catches my eye with a flair for the dramatic and an apologetic smile he draws his finger slowly across his neck. I take it to mean my time is up.

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 His favourite modern musicians are [[Edgard Varèse]], [[Igor Stravinsky]] and [[Anton Webern]]. His favourite records are [[Johnny "Guitar" Watson]]'s "Three Hours Past Midnight", Don And Dewey's "Soul Motion", [[The Orchids]]' "Newlywed" and The Paragons' "Can I Come Over Tonight?" He says the ethnic strain closest to his own music is Bulgarian folk. He is, amongst other things, a rock musician.
-"I was riding in the car and I turned the knob on the radio and heard this song," he reflects, obviously groaning inwardly at having to repeat what by now must be a well-worn story. "It was 'I' by The Velvets" – not Underground – "and it sounded fabulous. My parents insisted it be dismissed from the radio and I knew I was onto something ..."
+"I was riding in the car and I turned the knob on the radio and heard this song," he reflects, obviously groaning inwardly at having to repeat what by now must be a well-worn story. "It was 'I' by [[The Velvets]]" – not Underground – "and it sounded fabulous. My parents insisted it be dismissed from the radio and I knew I was onto something ..."
 But finding out what makes this mother tick is no easy task, especially in the half-hour allotted between two other scribes probably out to do the very same thing. I decide, rather unwisely it emerges, to start at the deep end.

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 Since his contract had allegedly been breached, Zappa took his copy tapes of the four albums, added some new material, subtracted some old, and prepared a four-record set called "[[Läther]]", but pronounced "Leather".
-Recorded over a three-year period with non-static personnel from later Zappa line-ups, "[[Läther]]" is nothing so much as a definitive overview of every mode the man ever tampered with, utilising new recordings and with few exceptions – notably a scorching instrumental version of "[[Duke Of Prunes]]" – all new material. If your interest in Zappa goes beyond mere frivolous acquaintance, it's essential.
+Recorded over a three-year period with non-static personnel from later Zappa line-ups, "[[Läther]]" is nothing so much as a definitive overview of every mode the man ever tampered with, utilising new recordings and with few exceptions – notably a scorching instrumental version of "[[The Duke Of Prunes|Duke Of Prunes]]" – all new material. If your interest in Zappa goes beyond mere frivolous acquaintance, it's essential.
 And you nearly had a chance to buy it too, because a deal was set up last autumn with Phonogram records for a new Zappa label, kicking off with [[Läther]].