Ray Collins - Revision history

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Duncan: /* Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of Freak Out! */

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Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of Freak Out!

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Spider of Destiny: /* Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of Freak Out */

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Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of Freak Out

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	[[File:Ray Collins.jpg\|350px\|thumb\|right\|Ray Collins standing in the center of the Mothers. From left to right: Frank Zappa with child, [[Elliot Ingber]], Ray Collins, [[Jimmy Carl Black]] and [[Roy Estrada]], 1966.]]		[[File:Ray Collins.jpg\|350px\|thumb\|right\|Ray Collins standing in the center of the Mothers. From left to right: Frank Zappa with child, [[Elliot Ingber]], Ray Collins, [[Jimmy Carl Black]] and [[Roy Estrada]], 1966.]]

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 ==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out!]]''==
-''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in Kansas, forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Wikipedia:Pachuco|Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
+''... Moved into my [[Pal Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in Kansas, forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Wikipedia:Pachuco|Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
 * '''Little Julian Herrera And The Tigers''': I Remember Linda / True Fine Mama

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 He started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959. In 1962 he saw Zappa playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]]. Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band.  He later told Zappa about an idea he had for a song called ''[[How's Your Bird?]]''. Zappa went off, wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].
-Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called [[Sin City Boys]] and [[Loeb & Leopold]].
+Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called Sin City Boys and [[Loeb & Leopold]].
 Ray joined [[The Soul Giants]], a band that included [[Jimmy Carl Black]] and [[Roy Estrada]].  Collins brought in Frank when their guitar player left. [[The Soul Giants]] eventually became [[The Mothers]].

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 ==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out!]]''==
-''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in Kansas, forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
+''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in Kansas, forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Wikipedia:Pachuco|Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
 * '''Little Julian Herrera And The Tigers''': I Remember Linda / True Fine Mama

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 ==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out!]]''==
-''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in [[Kansas]], forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
+''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in Kansas, forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
 * '''Little Julian Herrera And The Tigers''': I Remember Linda / True Fine Mama

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-'''Ray Collins''' (19 November 1936 - 24 December 2012) was a member of [[The Mothers]]. He performed as a vocalist and percussionist.
+[[File:Ray Collins.jpg|350px|thumb|right|Ray Collins standing in the center of the Mothers. From left to right: Frank Zappa with child, [[Elliot Ingber]], Ray Collins, [[Jimmy Carl Black]] and [[Roy Estrada]], 1966.]]
 ==Biography==
-He started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959. In 1962 he saw FZ playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]]. Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band.  He later told FZ about an idea he had for a song called [[How's Your Bird?]].  FZ went off, wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].
+He started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959. In 1962 he saw Zappa playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]]. Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band.  He later told Zappa about an idea he had for a song called ''[[How's Your Bird?]]''. Zappa went off, wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].
 Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called [[Sin City Boys]] and [[Loeb & Leopold]].
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 * '''Little Julian Herrera And The Tigers''': I Remember Linda / True Fine Mama
 (1957, 7", usa, starla records) - feat. Ray Collins on high falsetto backing
 [[Category:Bandmembers|Collins, Ray]]
-[[Category:Musicians|Collins, Ray]]
+[[Category:Singers|Collins, Ray]]
 [[Category:The Real Frank Zappa Book (The List)|Collins, Ray]]

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 *[[Joe's Corsage]]
-==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out]]''==
+==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out!]]''==
 ''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in [[Kansas]], forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''

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−	'''Ray Collins''' (19 November 1936 - 24 December 2012) was a member of [[The Mothers ~~of Invention~~]]. He performed as a vocalist and percussionist.	+	'''Ray Collins''' (19 November 1936 - 24 December 2012) was a member of [[The Mothers]]. He performed as a vocalist and percussionist.

	==Biography==		==Biography==

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-Ray Collins (Born:  19 November 1936, Died: 24th December 2012) started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959.  In 1962 he saw FZ playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]].  Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band.  He later told FZ about an idea he had for a song called [[How's Your Bird?]].  FZ went off and wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].
+'''Ray Collins''' (19 November 1936 - 24 December 2012) was a member of [[The Mothers of Invention]]. He performed as a vocalist and percussionist.
 Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called [[Sin City Boys]] and [[Loeb & Leopold]].
 Ray joined [[The Soul Giants]], a band that included [[Jimmy Carl Black]] and [[Roy Estrada]].  Collins brought in Frank when their guitar player left. [[The Soul Giants]] eventually became [[The Mothers]].
-==Ray Collins Provided Vocal And Minor Percussion On==
 *[[Freak Out!]]
 *[[Absolutely Free]]
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 *[[Joe's Corsage]]
-From the "biographical trivia" section on the [[Freak Out!]] (1966) album: ''... Moved into my [[PAL Recording Studio | recording studio]], joined forces with [[Ray Collins | Ray]], [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] and [[Roy Estrada | Roy]], schemed and plotted for a year, working in beer joints, blah, blah, starved a lot, etc... played a lot of freaky music & stayed vastly unpopular (though notorious). OWE OUR EXISTENCE to [[Mark Cheka]] for his initial encouragement and sterling example (and to a whole bunch of other people who are going to be bugged because their names aren't listed in detail, with addresses and pertinent facts about what they like about the government & their other fetishes). [[Ray Collins | Ray]] used to be a carpenter and a bartender and sing with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers | Little Julian Herrera & The Tigers]] (note the falsetto part in 'I REMEMBER LINDA')... been singing R&B for ten to twelve years. [[Jimmy Carl Black | Jim]] got fired from some idiot band in [[Kansas]], forcing him to move to [[California]]. Lucky for us. Seems he just couldn't get turned on playing "[[Louie Louie | Louie, Louie]]" all night... it must have hurt him deeply when they rejected him. [[Roy Estrada | Roy]] is an asthmatic [[Pachuco]], good-natured excellent bass player, involved in the R&B scene here for about ten years. He is unbelievably tolerant. I don't understand it. [[Elliot Ingber | Elliot]] digs the blues. He has a big dimple in his chin. We made him grow beard to cover it up. He just got out of the Army. Lucky for the Army. THEY ARE ALL MUSICIANS.''
+==Ray Collins' description in the liner notes of ''[[Freak Out]]''==
 * '''Little Julian Herrera And The Tigers''': I Remember Linda / True Fine Mama

← Older revision		Revision as of 20:35, 25 December 2012
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−	Ray Collins (Born: 19 November 1936) started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959. In 1962 he saw FZ playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]]. Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band. He later told FZ about an idea he had for a song called [[How's Your Bird?]]. FZ went off and wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].	+	Ray Collins (Born: 19 November 1936, Died: 24th December 2012) started his musical career singing high falsetto backing vocals for various 'pachuco' and doo-wop styled groups in Southern California. He recorded with [[Little Julian Herrera and the Tigers]] in 1959. In 1962 he saw FZ playing guitar with a band at a bar "The Sportsman" in [[Pomona]]. Collins, at his request, sang a few songs with the band. He later told FZ about an idea he had for a song called [[How's Your Bird?]]. FZ went off and wrote the song then contacted Collins to arrange to record the song at [[Pal Studio]].

	Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called [[Sin City Boys]] and [[Loeb & Leopold]].		Collins and Zappa would perform in bars as a mock folk duo called [[Sin City Boys]] and [[Loeb & Leopold]].