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 '''Getting away from talking about the high school and talking about society and getting into that whole trip that lasted, I don't know how long, a couple of years I guess, in which you were traveling and were on the road and did incredibly long musical and verbal riffs about being drunk, horny and on the road. And that was one of the things especially in the movie that a lot of people found that you had done that trip and why were you doing it again.<br>
-Well, that's not exactly accurate. First of all, it did not last 2 years and second of all, the content of the music that the Mothers play is not 100% the result of me making people do things. The reason we're performing that is because it was a true story, it actually happened to [[Howard Kaylan]]. It was just a process of commemorating a piece of folklore that was peculiar to the group and there was no reason why that shouldn't be saved and I think that other groups who ignore the folklore that happens to the members within the group are missing a good shot for preserving a little history. Because I also take the position that contemporary history is going to be retained on records more accurately than it is going to be within history books.<br>
+Well, that's not exactly accurate. First of all, it did not last 2 years and second of all, the content of the music that the Mothers play is not 100% the result of me making people do things. The reason we're performing that is because it was a true story, it actually happened to [[Flo & Eddie|Howard Kaylan]]. It was just a process of commemorating a piece of folklore that was peculiar to the group and there was no reason why that shouldn't be saved and I think that other groups who ignore the folklore that happens to the members within the group are missing a good shot for preserving a little history. Because I also take the position that contemporary history is going to be retained on records more accurately than it is going to be within history books.<br>
 Judging from the quality of the rock and roll writers that are appearing in rock and roll publications I would say they're not doing quite as good as the people who are actually making the records. So therefore, in a hundred years if people want to find out what was going on during this period of time they'd be better off listening to the source rather than to read the thing in print. Therefore, if we are involved in things that occur on the road with groupies and assorted weird events of a sexual nature, it's better that we tell about it ourselves in a musical format and do it with the people that it occurred to than have somebody else say "And then in 1971 one time when they were out on the road at the Mudshark hotel ...". You know, it's better to do it that way.<br>
 Unfortunately, some people have a peculiar attitude towards things of a glandular nature connected with things of a musical nature and they say "Well, music is so high - it's ''HERE,'' and glands are ''WAY DOWN THERE,'' and we can't really get 'em together." And then they're hypocritical because then they turn around and a group that comes in and doesn't sing overtly about those things but couches their language a little bit and then does it with a little choreography, they think that's great and that's real rock and roll and I maintain there's no difference. We were just honest enough to go out there and say "This is ''THIS,'' that's ''THAT,'' and here you are and respond to it.", and the response to it was "Why, I'm hip, but of course I am offended."

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	'''I know from your various raps in the past and from reading about you that you have a great deal of interest in classical music.<br>		'''I know from your various raps in the past and from reading about you that you have a great deal of interest in classical music.<br>

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 '''I'll kid ya.<br>
 Okay. Well my premise is that you can have harmony constructed out of rhythms. That's the way I look at it and without getting into a series of charts, graphs, diagrams and explaining technically how all that's done, that's one of the things that my listening to forms of music other than rock and roll has brought to the performance of The Mothers.<br>
-I would probably tend to agree with Lukas Foss's evaluation of [[The Rite Of Spring]] although it's one of my favorite pieces, he feels that it's sort of like Bigger and Better [[wikipedia:Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov|Rimsky-Korsakov]]. In a way it is. It's more than that, but I think that the [[L'Histoire Du Soldat]] has probably got a lot more going for it in terms of real innovation and its rhythmic vitality; interesting sonorities that just didn't exist in chamber music prior to that time.
+I would probably tend to agree with [[Lukas Foss]]'s evaluation of [[The Rite Of Spring]] although it's one of my favorite pieces, he feels that it's sort of like Bigger and Better [[wikipedia:Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov|Rimsky-Korsakov]]. In a way it is. It's more than that, but I think that the [[L'Histoire Du Soldat]] has probably got a lot more going for it in terms of real innovation and its rhythmic vitality; interesting sonorities that just didn't exist in chamber music prior to that time.
 '''You said you sorta wanted to put off a philosophical discussion, it's clear, however, that you're into what music does and how audiences address music; you're quite obviously unhappy that the lowest common denominator seems so often to rise to the top - at least at the economic pile in American music; you seem to think that [[Grand Funk Railroad]] is something less than ideal. What is ideal? What is the music experience about and what kinds of things do you bring to it? What do you expect your audience to do?<br>
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 I'm going wherever I can, y'know.
-'''Going out into jazz and into [[wikipedia:Anton Webern|Webern]] and all those places?<br>
+'''Going out into jazz and into [[Anton Webern|Webern]] and all those places?<br>
-I started off in [[wikipedia:Anton Webern|Webern]]. I'm trying to get back. (laughs)
+I started off in Webern. I'm trying to get back. (laughs)
 '''Working your way home?<br>
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 '''Getting away from talking about the high school and talking about society and getting into that whole trip that lasted, I don't know how long, a couple of years I guess, in which you were traveling and were on the road and did incredibly long musical and verbal riffs about being drunk, horny and on the road. And that was one of the things especially in the movie that a lot of people found that you had done that trip and why were you doing it again.<br>
-Well, that's not exactly accurate. First of all, it did not last 2 years and second of all, the content of the music that the Mothers play is not 100% the result of me making people do things. The reason we're performing that is because it was a true story, it actually happened to Howard Kaylan. It was just a process of commemorating a piece of folklore that was peculiar to the group and there was no reason why that shouldn't be saved and I think that other groups who ignore the folklore that happens to the members within the group are missing a good shot for preserving a little history. Because I also take the position that contemporary history is going to be retained on records more accurately than it is going to be within history books.<br>
+Well, that's not exactly accurate. First of all, it did not last 2 years and second of all, the content of the music that the Mothers play is not 100% the result of me making people do things. The reason we're performing that is because it was a true story, it actually happened to [[Howard Kaylan]]. It was just a process of commemorating a piece of folklore that was peculiar to the group and there was no reason why that shouldn't be saved and I think that other groups who ignore the folklore that happens to the members within the group are missing a good shot for preserving a little history. Because I also take the position that contemporary history is going to be retained on records more accurately than it is going to be within history books.<br>
 Judging from the quality of the rock and roll writers that are appearing in rock and roll publications I would say they're not doing quite as good as the people who are actually making the records. So therefore, in a hundred years if people want to find out what was going on during this period of time they'd be better off listening to the source rather than to read the thing in print. Therefore, if we are involved in things that occur on the road with groupies and assorted weird events of a sexual nature, it's better that we tell about it ourselves in a musical format and do it with the people that it occurred to than have somebody else say "And then in 1971 one time when they were out on the road at the Mudshark hotel ...". You know, it's better to do it that way.<br>
 Unfortunately, some people have a peculiar attitude towards things of a glandular nature connected with things of a musical nature and they say "Well, music is so high - it's ''HERE,'' and glands are ''WAY DOWN THERE,'' and we can't really get 'em together." And then they're hypocritical because then they turn around and a group that comes in and doesn't sing overtly about those things but couches their language a little bit and then does it with a little choreography, they think that's great and that's real rock and roll and I maintain there's no difference. We were just honest enough to go out there and say "This is ''THIS,'' that's ''THAT,'' and here you are and respond to it.", and the response to it was "Why, I'm hip, but of course I am offended."

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 '''Like what?<br>
-My favorite composers to listen to are: Stravinsky, Webern, Varese, and Penderecki. I think I find more things of interest for my ear in those composers than I do in any number of pop groups that you could name.
+My favorite composers to listen to are: Stravinsky, Webern, Varèse, and Penderecki. I think I find more things of interest for my ear in those composers than I do in any number of pop groups that you could name.
 '''Do you think that there's a possible audience for let's say ... Webern or Penderecki?<br>
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 Well, that's beside the point. The audience exists – it's perhaps not as large as the audience for [[Grand Funk Railroad]] but it's there nonetheless and is in need of servicing. There are some people who might be interested in hearing that music who have never heard it before and who might just like to go out and see what it does to their mind to get a little bit of it on 'em.
-'''In the past, political types have talked of the music of [[wikipedia:Anton Webern|Webern]], the, uh Post-Webern really ... [[wikipedia:Krzysztof Penderecki|Penderecki]] and his friends as being elitist music – music that is difficult for masses of people to listen to.<br>
+'''In the past, political types have talked of the music of [[Anton Webern|Webern]], the, uh Post-Webern really ... [[Krzysztof Penderecki|Penderecki]] and his friends as being elitist music – music that is difficult for masses of people to listen to.<br>
 Then I would assume from that line of reasoning that the ideal music of all time must be that of the crudest form of rock and roll. I don't think that that's elitist music by any stretch of the imagination.

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 Yes, there is a link. It's rhythmic and it's harmonic.
-'''[[Pierre Boulez]] says of [[Igor Stravinsky|Stravinsky]] that Stravinsky was the first person, specifically in the [[The Rite of Spring|Rite Of Spring]], to write rhythm that most of Western music until that time, starting with [[wikipedia:Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina|Palestrina]] had written harmony.<br>
+'''[[Pierre Boulez]] says of [[Igor Stravinsky|Stravinsky]] that Stravinsky was the first person, specifically in [[The Rite Of Spring|the Rite Of Spring]], to write rhythm that most of Western music until that time, starting with [[wikipedia:Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina|Palestrina]] had written harmony.<br>
 I don't know whether I could agree with that a hundred percent.

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 Both.
-'''Other than taking other people's work and using it for theme and variations as you do in the [[Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin|Invocation and Ritual Dance]] and various other places in your work, do you think that there is a link between what we call the classical world and your music?<br>
+'''Other than taking other people's work and using it for theme and variations as you do in the [[Invocation And Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin|Invocation and Ritual Dance]] and various other places in your work, do you think that there is a link between what we call the classical world and your music?<br>
 Yes, there is a link. It's rhythmic and it's harmonic.

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 '''Working your way home?<br>
-Yeah, working my way back from [[wikipedia:Vienna|Vienna]].
+Yeah, working my way back from [[Vienna]].
 '''Are you really interested in that kind of music and atonal serial music - do you compose in tone rows and things like that or is it more American than that?<br>