Loeb & Leopold - Revision history

Spider of Destiny at 11:34, 24 May 2026

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Jason.Kreitzer at 13:20, 4 October 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 13:50, 23 September 2021

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Duncan at 21:43, 15 August 2021

2021-08-15T21:43:29Z

Duncan: Loeb & Leopold on wheels moved to Loeb & Leopold over redirect

2008-09-21T17:21:00Z

Loeb & Leopold on wheels moved to Loeb & Leopold over redirect

NawlinWiki: Loeb & Leopold moved to Loeb & Leopold on wheels: MUHAMED RAPED LITTLE CHILDREN. HE WORSHIPPED SATAN AND SACRIFICED BABIES IN HIS NAME. MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS AND SHOULD BE SHOT. ALLAH DOESN'T EXIST.

2008-09-21T12:46:47Z

Loeb & Leopold moved to Loeb & Leopold on wheels: MUHAMED RAPED LITTLE CHILDREN. HE WORSHIPPED SATAN AND SACRIFICED BABIES IN HIS NAME. MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS AND SHOULD BE SHOT. ALLAH DOESN'T EXIST.

Propellerkuh at 16:46, 31 January 2008

2008-01-31T16:46:33Z

Propellerkuh at 16:43, 31 January 2008

2008-01-31T16:43:53Z

Duncan at 09:35, 12 August 2007

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Duncan at 09:30, 12 August 2007

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-'''Loeb & Leopold''' was one of the names used by Zappa and [[Ray Collins]] when they performed as a duo during 1963.  The name came from the notorious teenage murderers [[Wikipedia:Leopold and Loeb|Nathan Leopold, Jr. and Richard Loeb]] who were convicted in 1924.
+'''Loeb & Leopold''' were the nicknames of two groups of distinctively different people in Zappa's career. In both cases, the names were based on the notorious teenage murderers [[Wikipedia:Leopold and Loeb|Nathan Leopold, Jr. and Richard Loeb]] who were convicted in 1924.
-<blockquote>You know, [[Memories Of El Monte]] was co-written by [[Ray Collins]] and myself, and a long time ago, 'bout the same time [[Memories Of El Monte]] was written, he and I worked at [[The Troubadour]] on 'talent night' as [[Loeb & Leopold]]. And we went down there and were singing songs about pimples and all kinds of other far out things that seemed like uh, well, that was the basis of some of the things [[The Mothers]] eventually wound up doing.</blockquote>
+''Loeb & Leopold'' were one one of the names used by Zappa and [[Ray Collins]] when they performed as a duo during 1963.
 <div align=right>-FZ in [[KPPC, Pasadena]] radio show (November 27, 1968)</div>
-The names [[Loeb & Leopold]] were later used as nicknames for a couple of regulars at the [[Garrick Theatre]].
+==The second ''Loeb & Leopold''==
 <blockquote>During their stay in [[New York]], the Mothers successfully performed for six months at the [[Garrick Theatre]] doing a cleverly animated, pornographically delightful musical review. Some people liked it so much they came back repeatedly. Two [[New York|Long Island]] school boys, affectionately dubbed [[Loeb & Leopold|Loeb and Leopold]], held ticket stubs for some sixty-five performances. A classic study in compulsive behavior.</blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[Bobby Zappa|C. R. Zappa]] in [[My Brother Is an Italian Mother]] 1968</div>
-<blockquote><p>There were two suburban Jewish guys who attended the [[Garrick Theatre|Garrick shows]] relentlessly. They called themselves [[Loeb & Leopold]] (not the real 'Loeb & Leopold,' but an incredibly lifelike simulation). They came to at least thirty shows.</p>
+<blockquote><p>''"There were two suburban Jewish guys who attended the [[Garrick Theatre|Garrick shows]] relentlessly. They called themselves [[Loeb & Leopold]] (not the real 'Loeb & Leopold,' but an incredibly lifelike simulation). They came to at least thirty shows."''</p>
-<p>At the end of our run they came backstage, opened up their wallets and, with tears in their eyes,
+<p>''"At the end of our run they came backstage, opened up their wallets and, with tears in their eyes, showed me all their ticket stubs. They loved the Garrick shows. One of the guys – I'm pretty sure his name was '''Mark Trottiner''' – liked to run up the aisle, jump on stage, grab the microphone out of my hand and scream into it as loud as he could. Then he would fall on the stage, roll over like a dog and urge me to spit Pepsi-Cola all over his body. What a crowd-
-showed me all their ticket stubs. They loved the Garrick shows.
+pleaser."''<sup>[[#Note1|[1]]]</sup></p>
 One of the guys – I'm pretty sure his name was '''Mark Trottiner''' – liked to run up the aisle, jump
-on stage, grab the microphone out of my hand and scream into it as loud as he could. Then he would
+<p>''"Ten years later, I was doing a [[77/10/28-31 New York NY US Palladium|Halloween show at the Palladium]], and I looked out into the audience and thought I saw him. It had to be him. I said, "Aren't you the guy who used to ...?" It was him. He grew up to become a record distributor in Queens."''</p></blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]</div>
 The Trottiner Halloween encounter is included on the [[Halloween]] album:
-'''FZ''': Wait a minute. You look… You look very familiar. Are you the guy? You’re the guy? C’mere. Get up here. Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know how many of you people were at the Garrick Theater in ‘67, in the olden days. There’s probably very few of you left but, way back when, there were… there were these two guys that used to come to all the shows back then. Called themselves “Loeb and Leopold”. Well. Maybe it was their real name. I don’t know. What is your real name?
+'''FZ''': ''"Wait a minute. You look… You look very familiar. Are you the guy? You’re the guy? C’mere. Get up here. Ladies and gentlemen, I don’t know how many of you people were at the Garrick Theater in ‘67, in the olden days. There’s probably very few of you left but, way back when, there were… there were these two guys that used to come to all the shows back then. Called themselves “Loeb and Leopold”. Well. Maybe it was their real name. I don’t know. What is your real name?"''
-'''FZ''': Yes. It’s so nice to see you again. You know what this guy used to do? You know what his idea of a good time ▶ was in those days? He would run up onto the stage and he would take the microphone and he would scream into it as loud as he could and then he would lay on the stage and wait for me to spit Pepsi-Cola all over his body, right?
+'''Mark Trottiner''': ''"Mark Trottiner"''.
 ==See also==
 [[Sacco & Vanzetti]]
 [[Category:Supporting Cast]]
 [[Category:Freak Out! (The List)]]
 [[Category:The Real Frank Zappa Book (The List)]]

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-The names [[Loeb & Leopold]] were later used as nicknames for a couple of regulars at the [[Garrick Theater]].
+The names [[Loeb & Leopold]] were later used as nicknames for a couple of regulars at the [[Garrick Theatre]].
-<blockquote>During their stay in [[New York]], the Mothers successfully performed for six months at the [[Garrick Theater|Garrick Theatre]] doing a cleverly animated, pornographically delightful musical review. Some people liked it so much they came back repeatedly. Two [[New York|Long Island]] school boys, affectionately dubbed [[Loeb & Leopold|Loeb and Leopold]], held ticket stubs for some sixty-five performances. A classic study in compulsive behavior.</blockquote>
+<blockquote>During their stay in [[New York]], the Mothers successfully performed for six months at the [[Garrick Theatre]] doing a cleverly animated, pornographically delightful musical review. Some people liked it so much they came back repeatedly. Two [[New York|Long Island]] school boys, affectionately dubbed [[Loeb & Leopold|Loeb and Leopold]], held ticket stubs for some sixty-five performances. A classic study in compulsive behavior.</blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[Bobby Zappa|C. R. Zappa]] in [[My Brother Is an Italian Mother]] 1968</div>
-<blockquote><p>There were two suburban Jewish guys who attended the [[Garrick Theater|Garrick shows]] relentlessly. They called themselves [[Loeb & Leopold]] (not the real 'Loeb & Leopold,' but an incredibly lifelike simulation). They came to at least thirty shows.</p>
+<blockquote><p>There were two suburban Jewish guys who attended the [[Garrick Theatre|Garrick shows]] relentlessly. They called themselves [[Loeb & Leopold]] (not the real 'Loeb & Leopold,' but an incredibly lifelike simulation). They came to at least thirty shows.</p>
 <p>At the end of our run they came backstage, opened up their wallets and, with tears in their eyes,
 showed me all their ticket stubs. They loved the Garrick shows.

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 The names [[Loeb & Leopold]] were later used as nicknames for a couple of regulars at the [[Garrick Theater]].
-<blockquote>During their stay in [[New York]], the Mothers successfully performed for six months at the [[Garrick Theater|Garrick Theatre]] doing a cleverly animated, pornographically delightful musical review. Some people liked it so much they came back repeatedly. Two [[Long Island]] school boys, affectionately dubbed [[Loeb & Leopold|Loeb and Leopold]], held ticket stubs for some sixty-five performances. A classic study in compulsive behavior.</blockquote>
+<blockquote>During their stay in [[New York]], the Mothers successfully performed for six months at the [[Garrick Theater|Garrick Theatre]] doing a cleverly animated, pornographically delightful musical review. Some people liked it so much they came back repeatedly. Two [[New York|Long Island]] school boys, affectionately dubbed [[Loeb & Leopold|Loeb and Leopold]], held ticket stubs for some sixty-five performances. A classic study in compulsive behavior.</blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[Bobby Zappa|C. R. Zappa]] in [[My Brother Is an Italian Mother]] 1968</div>

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 <p>At the end of our run they came backstage, opened up their wallets and, with tears in their eyes,
 showed me all their ticket stubs. They loved the Garrick shows.
-One of the guys – I'm pretty sure his name was [[Mark Trottiner]] – liked to run up the aisle, jump
+One of the guys – I'm pretty sure his name was '''Mark Trottiner''' – liked to run up the aisle, jump
 on stage, grab the microphone out of my hand and scream into it as loud as he could. Then he would
 fall on the stage, roll over like a dog and urge me to spit Pepsi-Cola all over his body. What a crowd-
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 grew up to become a record distributor in Queens.</p></blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]</div>
 '''Loeb & Leopold''' were included in the [[:Category:Freak Out! (The List)|list of names]] on the cover of [[Freak Out!]]
-==Notes==
+==See also==
-#<div id="Note1">See [[Stink-Foot]], [[Halloween]]; 2:11–2:13</div>
+[[Sacco & Vanzetti]]

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-[[Loeb & Leopold]] was one of the names used by Zappa and [[Ray Collins]] when they performed as a duo during 1963.  The name came from the notorious teenage murderers [[Wikipedia:Leopold and Loeb|Nathan Leopold, Jr. and Richard Loeb]] who were convicted in 1924.
+'''Loeb & Leopold''' was one of the names used by Zappa and [[Ray Collins]] when they performed as a duo during 1963.  The name came from the notorious teenage murderers [[Wikipedia:Leopold and Loeb|Nathan Leopold, Jr. and Richard Loeb]] who were convicted in 1924.
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 pleaser.<sup>[[#Note1|[1]]]</sup></p>
 <p>Ten years later, I was doing a [[77/10/28-31 New York NY US Palladium|Halloween show at the Palladium]], and I looked out into the audience
-and thought I saw him. It had to be him. I said, "Aren't you the guy who used to --?" It was him. He
+and thought I saw him. It had to be him. I said, "Aren't you the guy who used to ...?" It was him. He
-grew up to become a record distributor in Queens</p></blockquote>
+grew up to become a record distributor in Queens.</p></blockquote>
 <div align=right>-[[The Real Frank Zappa Book]]</div>
 ==Notes==
 #<div id="Note1">See [[Stink-Foot]], [[Halloween]]; 2:11–2:13</div>

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