Let's Talk Clothes - Revision history

Jason.Kreitzer at 14:06, 13 October 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 19:51, 31 July 2021

2021-07-31T19:51:51Z

Spider of Destiny at 20:26, 17 November 2020

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Propellerkuh at 21:02, 25 December 2007

2007-12-25T21:02:23Z

Duncan: Tweaking

2007-11-14T20:04:22Z

Tweaking

Duncan: Note on timing of interview

2007-11-14T20:01:20Z

Note on timing of interview

Duncan: Spacing

2007-11-14T19:45:33Z

Spacing

Duncan: Changed hand to band (which I guess it should be)

2007-11-14T19:39:40Z

Changed hand to band (which I guess it should be)

Duncan: Link to Rainbow

2007-11-14T19:32:30Z

Link to Rainbow

Duncan: Link to concert

2007-11-14T19:30:26Z

Link to concert

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 I don't know, you tell me.
-'''You're glamorous. Musicians, music people like you. You are all doing things that turn people on today. Look at Mick Jagger with all the society people following him. A rock critic said recently that ''Madison Square Garden'' is the l970's answer to the ''Hotel Plaza Ballroom.'' Maybe it is. How did you like the concert last night?<br>
+'''You're glamorous. Musicians, music people like you. You are all doing things that turn people on today. Look at Mick Jagger with all the society people following him. A rock critic said recently that ''[[Wikipedia:Madison Square Garden|Madison Square Garden]]'' is the l970's answer to the ''Hotel Plaza Ballroom.'' Maybe it is. How did you like the concert last night?<br>
 I think the sound got terribly lost. We're going down there this afternoon and see if we can solve those problems and make it sound better for tonight's concert. That's the hardest part about putting any kind of a band on stage: you have the acoustics of the room, the taste of the audience, and the hands of the mixer all to contend with. What I heard on stage had no bearing on what was going on up front. I thought it sounded O.K. on stage.

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-''[[Frank Zappa]] walked on stage of [[72/09/22-23 New York NY US Felt Forum|New York's "Felt Forum"]] in the same worn, baggy blue shirt he was wearing earlier that evening in his dressing room; and the same old jeans, ripped on one side over the shiny brace which he wears on his left leg as a result of his [[The Rainbow Theatre Incident|''Rainbow Theatre'' accident]] in London. He wore no makeup, had not combed his hair or buttoned one more button on the shirt. I decided to interview him on his ideas about fashions.<br>
+''[[Biography|Frank Zappa]] walked on stage of [[72/09/22-23 New York NY US Felt Forum|New York's "Felt Forum"]] in the same worn, baggy blue shirt he was wearing earlier that evening in his dressing room; and the same old jeans, ripped on one side over the shiny brace which he wears on his left leg as a result of his [[The Rainbow Theatre Incident|''Rainbow Theatre'' accident]] in London. He wore no makeup, had not combed his hair or buttoned one more button on the shirt. I decided to interview him on his ideas about fashions.<br>
 ''"Fashions?" shouted Frank when I asked him after the show. "Man, you've got to be kidding!"<br>
 ''"Yes, Mr. Zappa, I'd like your ideas on the way some artists dress," I insisted. "Come on, Frank, it's going to be a trip!" "Some trip," agreed Frank, "this is going to be the freakiest thing I've ever done!" And added, "You know, I think you've got the wrong guy." "I'm sure I do. That's why I want you," I said.<br>

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-By Dino Orlando
+[[Image:LTC_02.jpg|frame|© 1973 Poppy Press]]
-Originally published in January, 1973
+By Dino Orlando<br>
-issue of "Words & Music", published by
+Originally published in January, 1973<br>
 Poppy Press, New York (now out of business)
 ''[[Frank Zappa]] walked on stage of [[72/09/22-23 New York NY US Felt Forum|New York's "Felt Forum"]] in the same worn, baggy blue shirt he was wearing earlier that evening in his dressing room; and the same old jeans, ripped on one side over the shiny brace which he wears on his left leg as a result of his [[The Rainbow Theatre Incident|''Rainbow Theatre'' accident]] in London. He wore no makeup, had not combed his hair or buttoned one more button on the shirt. I decided to interview him on his ideas about fashions.<br>
 ''"Fashions?" shouted Frank when I asked him after the show. "Man, you've got to be kidding!"<br>

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 [[Image:LTC_02.jpg|frame|© 1973 Poppy Press]]
-''[[Frank Zappa]] walked on stage of [[72/09/22-23 New York NY US Felt Forum|New York's ''Felt Forum']]' in the same worn, baggy blue shirt he was wearing earlier that evening in his dressing room; and the same old jeans, ripped on one side over the shiny brace which he wears on his left leg as a result of his [[The Rainbow Theatre Incident|''Rainbow Theatre'' accident]] in London. He wore no makeup, had not combed his hair or buttoned one more button on the shirt. I decided to interview him on his ideas about fashions.<br>
+''[[Frank Zappa]] walked on stage of [[72/09/22-23 New York NY US Felt Forum|New York's "Felt Forum"]] in the same worn, baggy blue shirt he was wearing earlier that evening in his dressing room; and the same old jeans, ripped on one side over the shiny brace which he wears on his left leg as a result of his [[The Rainbow Theatre Incident|''Rainbow Theatre'' accident]] in London. He wore no makeup, had not combed his hair or buttoned one more button on the shirt. I decided to interview him on his ideas about fashions.<br>
 ''"Fashions?" shouted Frank when I asked him after the show. "Man, you've got to be kidding!"<br>
 ''"Yes, Mr. Zappa, I'd like your ideas on the way some artists dress," I insisted. "Come on, Frank, it's going to be a trip!" "Some trip," agreed Frank, "this is going to be the freakiest thing I've ever done!" And added, "You know, I think you've got the wrong guy." "I'm sure I do. That's why I want you," I said.<br>

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 It was a beautiful, bright sunny fall day in New York. Frank had done the freakiest thing he'd ever thought of and I had had a ball, as I suspected.<br>
 We were all very happy.
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 '''This gives me a lead. I was just thinking about the fact that it started off as a rebellion, and it changed now to sort of a get together kind of thing. You know, at one time everybody was trying to do his own thing and just do it as crazy as possible. Before they wanted to be different. Now they are all trying to look like somebody. So sociologically it is a change: not belonging and then belonging; not conforming and then conforming.<br>
-Sociologically it's a reversion! Sociologically the whole concept of looking like the other guy is back to the 50's. It's a different kind of conformity. If you look at the clothes of the 50's – in high school, for instance, the kids would get together and there would be a trend forone particular brand of shirt, or shoes, or pants. Everybody had to wearexactly the same thing. Now that the 50's are coming back musically, andcertain fashions are coming back from the 50's. The whole conformist conceptof the 50's is also coming back. And I think that's a negative concept. People may not be dressing in all 1950's costumes and appearing on the street that way, but everybody will wear a certain type of garment. They will do it just so they fit in with their peers.
+Sociologically it's a reversion! Sociologically the whole concept of looking like the other guy is back to the 50's. It's a different kind of conformity. If you look at the clothes of the 50's – in high school, for instance, the kids would get together and there would be a trend for one particular brand of shirt, or shoes, or pants. Everybody had to wear exactly the same thing. Now that the 50's are coming back musically, and certain fashions are coming back from the 50's. The whole conformist concept of the 50's is also coming back. And I think that's a negative concept. People may not be dressing in all 1950's costumes and appearing on the street that way, but everybody will wear a certain type of garment. They will do it just so they fit in with their peers.
 '''From a fashion point of view; nothing ever comes back the same. Sneakers, for example, were fashionable in 1950, but today's sneakers have platforms. So, even though it may look the same, it is not. Do you think it's true of music as well?<br>

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 '''You don't really think it's pertinent to their music?<br>
-Well, obviously, if you were to have the whole hand decked in some flamboyant costume, uniquely detailed in every respect, the lights carefully aimed at each one of them so that every sequin would glitter into the audience, the visual impact would be ten times greater, hut nobody would bother to listen to the music. It would be a fantastic spectacle and the audience might like it, but do you know what it would cost to do that?
+Well, obviously, if you were to have the whole band decked in some flamboyant costume, uniquely detailed in every respect, the lights carefully aimed at each one of them so that every sequin would glitter into the audience, the visual impact would be ten times greater, hut nobody would bother to listen to the music. It would be a fantastic spectacle and the audience might like it, but do you know what it would cost to do that?
 '''Yes. But it's not only a matter of cost with you. You don't think that this is your message. You think they want to hear the music.<br>