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Emdebe: Category:1971

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Category:1971

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 <center>'''[[Warner Brothers|Warner]] Promo-circular''', 1971</center><br>
-Hi! We're the [[The Mothers|MOI]] ([[The Mothers|Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[wikipedia:The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
+Hi! We're the [[The Mothers|MOI]] ([[The Mothers|Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
 Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Biography|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM Records|MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.

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 Hi! We're the [[The Mothers|MOI]] ([[The Mothers|Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[wikipedia:The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
-Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Biography|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
+Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Biography|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM Records|MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
 Maybe you know (maybe you don't know) about our plan for the release of the historic 9-disc '''[[The History And Collected Improvisations Of The Mothers Of Invention|History and Collected Improvisations of The Mothers]]''' around Christmas or after the first of the year. Maybe if you're in the promotional areas of WB/Kinney entertainment factory and heard about this unprecedented release you might have scratched your head and mumbled to your buddies at lunch ''" ... I never heard of these guys and I'm supposed to promote a NINE DISC HISTORY ALBUM. I mean 'I HEART OF THEM A LITTLE BIT,' but I mean I never HEARD of them ... I mean so who else ever HEARD of them and THEY SHOULD CARE? Some group dumping NINE FUCKING ALBUMS? During the depression and everything?"''

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 <center>'''[[Warner Brothers|Warner]] Promo-circular''', 1971</center><br>
-Hi! We're the [[Mothers Of Invention|MOI]] ([[Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[wikipedia:The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
+Hi! We're the [[The Mothers|MOI]] ([[The Mothers|Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[wikipedia:The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
-Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Frank Zappa|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
+Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Biography|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
 Maybe you know (maybe you don't know) about our plan for the release of the historic 9-disc '''[[The History And Collected Improvisations Of The Mothers Of Invention|History and Collected Improvisations of The Mothers]]''' around Christmas or after the first of the year. Maybe if you're in the promotional areas of WB/Kinney entertainment factory and heard about this unprecedented release you might have scratched your head and mumbled to your buddies at lunch ''" ... I never heard of these guys and I'm supposed to promote a NINE DISC HISTORY ALBUM. I mean 'I HEART OF THEM A LITTLE BIT,' but I mean I never HEARD of them ... I mean so who else ever HEARD of them and THEY SHOULD CARE? Some group dumping NINE FUCKING ALBUMS? During the depression and everything?"''

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-<center>'''Warner Promo-circular''', 1971</center><br>
+<center>'''[[Warner Brothers|Warner]] Promo-circular''', 1971</center><br>
-Hi! We're the [[Mothers Of Invention|MOI]] ([[Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that Herbie called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT THE DOOBIE BROTHERS, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS, AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
+Hi! We're the [[Mothers Of Invention|MOI]] ([[Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that [[Herb Cohen|Herbie]] called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT [[wikipedia:The Doobie Brothers|THE DOOBIE BROTHERS]], NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, [[wikipedia:Cat Mother & the All Night Newsboys|CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS]], AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').
-Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, F.Z. has released 2, and MGM/Verve (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
+Our group has been together since late 1964. During the past 7 years we have released 10 albums, [[Frank Zappa|F.Z.]] has released 2, and [[MGM]]/[[Verve Records|Verve]] (that other company) has re-packaged 3 anthologies against our wishes.
 Maybe you know (maybe you don't know) about our plan for the release of the historic 9-disc '''[[The History And Collected Improvisations Of The Mothers Of Invention|History and Collected Improvisations of The Mothers]]''' around Christmas or after the first of the year. Maybe if you're in the promotional areas of WB/Kinney entertainment factory and heard about this unprecedented release you might have scratched your head and mumbled to your buddies at lunch ''" ... I never heard of these guys and I'm supposed to promote a NINE DISC HISTORY ALBUM. I mean 'I HEART OF THEM A LITTLE BIT,' but I mean I never HEARD of them ... I mean so who else ever HEARD of them and THEY SHOULD CARE? Some group dumping NINE FUCKING ALBUMS? During the depression and everything?"''
 Maybe you talked to somebody else later at the office. Maybe you asked some more reasonable, intelligent questions ''(see specimen above).'' Maybe some of the other questions went like this:
 '''What's So Special About This Group?'''
-Perhaps the most unique aspect of [[The Mothers]]' work is the ''conceptual continuity'' of the group's ''output macrostructure.'' There is, and always has been, a conscious control of thematic and structural elements flowing through each album, live performance, and interview.
+Perhaps the most unique aspect of [[The Mothers]]' work is the ''[[Conceptual Continuity|conceptual continuity]]'' of the group's ''output macrostructure.'' There is, and always has been, a conscious control of thematic and structural elements flowing through each [[:Category:Original Albums|album]], live [[:Category:On The Road|performance]], and [[:Category:Interviews with Zappa|interview]].
 Do you know about Earth Works? Imagine the decades and the pile of stuff on them subjected to ''extensive long-range conceptual landscape modification.'' Houses, Offices. People live there and work there. They even make movies there. Imagine that you could be living there and working there and not even know it. Whether ''you'' can imagine it or not, that's what the deal is.
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 What we sound like is more that what we sound like. We are part of the ''[[Project/Object concept|project/object]].'' The ''[[Project/Object concept|project/object]]'' (maybe you like ''event/organism'' better) incorporates any available visual medium, consciousness of all participants (including audience), all perceptual deficiencies, God (as energy), [[Big Note concept|The Big Note]] (as universal basic building material), and other things. We make a special art in an environment hostile to dreamers.
-'''I Still Don't Get It . . . Art? What Art? Rolling Stone And All Other Groovy Important Publications Have Convinced Me That You Guys Are Nothing More Than A Bunch of Tone-Deaf Perverts, Faking It on the Fringe of the Real Rock & Roll World. All You Guys Do Is Play Comedy Music. So I Should Believe This Crap About a Conceptual Program Spanning Decades?'''
+'''I Still Don't Get It . . . Art? What Art? [[Rolling Stone]] And All Other Groovy Important Publications Have Convinced Me That You Guys Are Nothing More Than A Bunch of Tone-Deaf Perverts, Faking It on the Fringe of the Real Rock & Roll World. All You Guys Do Is Play Comedy Music. So I Should Believe This Crap About a Conceptual Program Spanning Decades?'''
 Yes.
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 There are several possible reasons:
-. Maybe you never asked because you never heard any of the albums so perhaps the long-range continuity would not occur to you.
+#Maybe you never asked because you never heard any of the albums so perhaps the long-range continuity would not occur to you.
-. Maybe you never asked because you never saw [[The Mothers]] perform live, and the conceptual aspects of this phase could not be described without you having seen many concerts.
+#Maybe you never asked because you never saw [[The Mothers]] perform live, and the conceptual aspects of this phase could not be described without you having seen many concerts.
-. Maybe you never read any interviews where this phenomenon was briefly described producing varying degrees of semantic confusion.
+#Maybe you never read any interviews where this phenomenon was briefly described producing varying degrees of semantic confusion.
-. Maybe now is when you should know.
+#Maybe now is when you should know.
 '''What is it? Like a Plot or Something?'''
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 And another precept which guides our work: ''SOMEBODY IN THAT AUDIENCE OUT THERE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND THAT PERSON IS GETTING OFF ON IT BEYOND HIS/HER WILDEST COMPREHENSIONS.''
 [[Category:Articles by Zappa]]

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	Hi! We're the [[Mothers Of Invention\|MOI]] ([[Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that Herbie called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT THE DOOBIE BROTHERS, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS, AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').		Hi! We're the [[Mothers Of Invention\|MOI]] ([[Mothers Of Invention]]) or just plain Mothers. We like to make that clear so you don't get us confused with that "Mothers/Brothers" campaign that Herbie called you guys about and said ''"What's the deal?"'' ... to make it very plaing, verging on Redundant: WE ARE NOT THE DOOBIE BROTHERS, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY CONNECTION WITH MOTHER EARTH, CAT MOTHER & THE ALL NIGHT NEWSBOYS, AND/OR EVERY MOTHER'S SON ... (with all the rock and roll groups you got, we can understand the sort of lonely confusion a busy executive must experience while attempting to make rational judgements about things like good or bad taste in an ad campaign ... we ''like'' you ... we ''understand'').

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 '''What?'''
-This is a silly analogy, however ... ''Imagine the head of a pin.'' On the head of this pin is an amazingly detailed illustration of some sort. It might be a little thought or a feeling or, perhaps, an obscure symbol. It might just be a picture of a sky or something with birds in it . . . but it's on the head of this pin, remember, and it's infinitely detailed. Now, imagine this pin is not a pin ... it's a musical note with a corresponding physical action, like the secret raising of an eyebrow to add special emphasis. Even in a recording studio where nobody can see you.
+This is a silly analogy, however ... ''Imagine the head of a pin.'' On the head of this pin is an amazingly detailed illustration of some sort. It might be a little thought or a feeling or, perhaps, an obscure symbol. It might just be a picture of a sky or something with birds in it ... but it's on the head of this pin, remember, and it's infinitely detailed. Now, imagine this pin is not a pin ... it's a [[Big Note concept|musical note]] with a corresponding physical action, like the secret raising of an eyebrow to add special emphasis. Even in a recording studio where nobody can see you.
 Now, imagine enough of these abstracted pins (with the needle part chopped off to save space) to fill an area as large as the North American Continent and most of Central Europe, piled to a depth of 80 feet. Now, imagine this area is not geometric space. Imagine a collection of decades (the exact number to be disclosed eventually). Pause.