Frank Zappa: Outraged Consumer - Revision history

Jason.Kreitzer at 13:13, 27 September 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 19:39, 14 September 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 18:52, 14 September 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 18:19, 11 August 2021

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Duncan: Jolson > WP

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Jolson > WP

Jason.Kreitzer at 22:04, 23 July 2021

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Jason.Kreitzer at 23:41, 17 July 2021

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Spider of Destiny at 06:56, 14 November 2020

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PopFanDoug: wl

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Spider of Destiny at 18:05, 17 December 2010

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 '''Which ones?<br>
-A lot of my favorite rhythm and blues records were released then. ''"Home On Alcatraz"'' by [[The Rolling Crew]], ''"Can't Get You Off My Mind"'' by [https://www.discogs.com/artist/2108921-Jeannie-Barnes|Jenne Barns], ''"Do-Wah"'' by the [[The Spaniels|Spaniels]], ''"Tell Me Darling"'' by [[The Gaylarks]].
+A lot of my favorite rhythm and blues records were released then. ''"Home On Alcatraz"'' by [https://www.discogs.com/artist/7608111-The-Rolling-Crew The Rolling Crew], ''"Can't Get You Off My Mind"'' by [https://www.discogs.com/artist/2108921-Jeannie-Barnes|Jenne Barns], ''"Do-Wah"'' by the [[The Spaniels|Spaniels]], ''"Tell Me Darling"'' by [[The Gaylarks]].
 '''Where were you living then?<br>

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 '''Which ones?<br>
-A lot of my favorite rhythm and blues records were released then. ''"Home On Alcatraz"'' by [[The Rolling Crew]], ''"Can't Get You Off My Mind"'' by [[Jenne Barns]], ''"Do-Wah"'' by the [[The Spaniels|Spaniels]], ''"Tell Me Darling"'' by [[The Gaylarks]].
+A lot of my favorite rhythm and blues records were released then. ''"Home On Alcatraz"'' by [[The Rolling Crew]], ''"Can't Get You Off My Mind"'' by [https://www.discogs.com/artist/2108921-Jeannie-Barnes|Jenne Barns], ''"Do-Wah"'' by the [[The Spaniels|Spaniels]], ''"Tell Me Darling"'' by [[The Gaylarks]].
 '''Where were you living then?<br>
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 '''What are your other children's names?<br>
-[[Dweezil]] and [[Ahmet]].
+[[Dweezil Zappa|Dweezil]] and [[Ahmet Zappa|Ahmet]].
 '''Is Moon Unit the oldest?<br>

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 It's hard to determine. I think a lot of them thought my first album was [[Apostrophe (')]]. I went out and did a tour after that album came out, and they were convinced that that was the first album I ever made. Of course, on the other hand, we played Washington, D.C. and it was the year of our tenth anniversary and we were playing a lot of stuff from the [[Freak Out!]] album, and the 13-year-old girls at that concert who were standing at the edge of the stage were squealing and when we played something from the Freak Out album they knew all the words. They would have had to be three-year-olds when that album came out. It was just weird.
-'''Is one of your children named [[Moon Unit]]?<br>
+'''Is one of your children named [[Moon Zappa|Moon Unit]]?<br>
 Yep.

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 '''There were good vibrations in the '67–'70 period, and you were particularly cynical then.<br>
-Look, let me put it to you this way: I wasn't particularly cynical, I remained to be as cynical as I ever was. The fact of the matter was everyone else was going around kissing everybody else's ass, and if you didn't have two fingers up in the air, some beads around your neck, a song tied on your head and a couple of flowers in your pocket, then you didn't have any peer-group status. But that whole thing was an immense pile of shit. Now I said so, so what did that make me, weird? That put me on the outside of what was going on. I was like a villain to everybody because I dared to say flower power sucked. I suppose you were into flower power? A lot of people were really into it. They thought it was the end-all. They really thought they were going to rule the world with a flower in their hand. It was nuts. They were believing in all these Yippie leaders and whatever else these assholes were telling them. They were just so full of dope that they were going blindly their own way, not thinking for a moment that the origin of LSD was in the [[CIA]] and a lot of them probably don't like to think about that now. By taking LSD they were helping the CIA in one of their favorite experiments. After they got done taking volunteers from the army, they actually made a profit selling it to people on the street, and seeing what actually happened to a civilian population. They got it in the ass so bad from the CIA that they don't even know. So to sit on the outside of that and say it was stupid will not make you any friends in the group of people who really believe in it, and since there were more of them than of me, it sort of set me up in a negative light for all the years to come.
+Look, let me put it to you this way: I wasn't particularly cynical, I remained to be as cynical as I ever was. The fact of the matter was everyone else was going around kissing everybody else's ass, and if you didn't have two fingers up in the air, some beads around your neck, a song tied on your head and a couple of flowers in your pocket, then you didn't have any peer-group status. But that whole thing was an immense pile of shit. Now I said so, so what did that make me, weird? That put me on the outside of what was going on. I was like a villain to everybody because I dared to say flower power sucked. I suppose you were into flower power? A lot of people were really into it. They thought it was the end-all. They really thought they were going to rule the world with a flower in their hand. It was nuts. They were believing in all these Yippie leaders and whatever else these assholes were telling them. They were just so full of dope that they were going blindly their own way, not thinking for a moment that the origin of LSD was in the [[Central Intelligence Agency|CIA]] and a lot of them probably don't like to think about that now. By taking LSD they were helping the CIA in one of their favorite experiments. After they got done taking volunteers from the army, they actually made a profit selling it to people on the street, and seeing what actually happened to a civilian population. They got it in the ass so bad from the CIA that they don't even know. So to sit on the outside of that and say it was stupid will not make you any friends in the group of people who really believe in it, and since there were more of them than of me, it sort of set me up in a negative light for all the years to come.
 '''But you liked playing that role, didn't you?<br>

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 If rock 'n roll didn't have a character like [[Biography|Frank Zappa]], the editors of ''Mad Magazine'' would have invented him – to rape the minds of teenagers. Most people assumed Francis Vincent came from New York City because he wore a beatnik goatee and looked like an anarchist. Actually he was born in Maryland in 1940 and raised in California from age ten. He calls himself a "creep" and says it's his upbringing that made him that way.
-In the high desert lands of California he became friends with [[Captain Beefheart|Don Van Vliet]], boy wonder. Both were composing in several media even before they were kicked out of high school. Zappa became the definitive freak, but he was never a hippie. He never took drugs, smoked weed only ten times, never took the easy bliss out, and this he wants to make perfectly clear. He listened to [[Howlin' Wolf]] and preferred [[Willie Mae Thornton]]'s version of "Hound Dog" to Presley's. Meanwhile Van Vliet listened to [[Al Jolson]] and continued the sculpture he began at age five. Van Vliet grew up and became Capt. Beefheart, named after the famous tomato that bulges to heroic proportions in the valleys. Beefheart and Zappa played dirty music together in 1962 – "very experimental stuff." Zappa made money on a filmscore venture and immediately turned it into a sound studio – "[[Studio Z|Z]]" in [[Cucamonga]], Ca. The first Mothers LP was '[[Freak Out!]]' in 1964, the first double album in rock history. Zappa later formed [[Bizarre Records]] which featured LPs by the [[GTO's]], [[Larry Fischer|Wild Man Fischer]], and the first two [[Alice Cooper]] albums (he was Cooper's hero and the main reason Furnier moved from Phoenix to L.A.). Then [[Jim Guercio]], [[Dr. John]], [[Van Dyke Parks]], [[Lowell George]], [[Kim Fowley]], [[Aynsley Dunbar]], and many others recorded with him. Capt. Beefheart played and sang on Zappa's solo LP, '[[Hot Rats]].'
+In the high desert lands of California he became friends with [[Captain Beefheart|Don Van Vliet]], boy wonder. Both were composing in several media even before they were kicked out of high school. Zappa became the definitive freak, but he was never a hippie. He never took drugs, smoked weed only ten times, never took the easy bliss out, and this he wants to make perfectly clear. He listened to [[Howlin' Wolf]] and preferred [[Willie Mae Thornton]]'s version of "Hound Dog" to Presley's. Meanwhile Van Vliet listened to [[wikipedia:Al Jolson|Al Jolson]] and continued the sculpture he began at age five. Van Vliet grew up and became Capt. Beefheart, named after the famous tomato that bulges to heroic proportions in the valleys. Beefheart and Zappa played dirty music together in 1962 – "very experimental stuff." Zappa made money on a filmscore venture and immediately turned it into a sound studio – "[[Studio Z|Z]]" in [[Cucamonga]], Ca. The first Mothers LP was '[[Freak Out!]]' in 1964, the first double album in rock history. Zappa later formed [[Bizarre Records]] which featured LPs by the [[GTO's]], [[Larry Fischer|Wild Man Fischer]], and the first two [[Alice Cooper]] albums (he was Cooper's hero and the main reason Furnier moved from Phoenix to L.A.). Then [[Jim Guercio]], [[Dr. John]], [[Van Dyke Parks]], [[Lowell George]], [[Kim Fowley]], [[Aynsley Dunbar]], and many others recorded with him. Capt. Beefheart played and sang on Zappa's solo LP, '[[Hot Rats]].'
 Beefheart formed the [[Magic Band]], and after cutting a record on ''Buddha'' went over to Zappa's [[DiscReet Records|DiscReet]] Label where he recorded the famous '[[Trout Mask Replica]].' Trouble. Beefheart had a beef. Claiming Zappa had produced it badly, Beefheart sued Zappa for alleged non-payment and other sins. Words were exchanged and then no words were exchanged and the friendship screeched to a dead halt.

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-If rock 'n roll didn't have a character like [[Frank Zappa]], the editors of ''Mad Magazine'' would have invented him – to rape the minds of teenagers. Most people assumed Francis Vincent came from New York City because he wore a beatnik goatee and looked like an anarchist. Actually he was born in Maryland in 1940 and raised in California from age ten. He calls himself a "creep" and says it's his upbringing that made him that way.
+If rock 'n roll didn't have a character like [[Biography|Frank Zappa]], the editors of ''Mad Magazine'' would have invented him – to rape the minds of teenagers. Most people assumed Francis Vincent came from New York City because he wore a beatnik goatee and looked like an anarchist. Actually he was born in Maryland in 1940 and raised in California from age ten. He calls himself a "creep" and says it's his upbringing that made him that way.
-In the high desert lands of California he became friends with [[Don Van Vliet]], boy wonder. Both were composing in several media even before they were kicked out of high school. Zappa became the definitive freak, but he was never a hippie. He never took drugs, smoked weed only ten times, never took the easy bliss out, and this he wants to make perfectly clear. He listened to [[Howlin' Wolf]] and preferred [[Willie Mae Thornton]]'s version of "Hound Dog" to Presley's. Meanwhile Van Vliet listened to [[Al Jolson]] and continued the sculpture he began at age five. Van Vliet grew up and became Capt. Beefheart, named after the famous tomato that bulges to heroic proportions in the valleys. Beefheart and Zappa played dirty music together in 1962 – "very experimental stuff." Zappa made money on a filmscore venture and immediately turned it into a sound studio – "[[Studio Z|Z]]" in [[Cucamonga]], Ca. The first Mothers LP was '[[Freak Out!]]' in 1964, the first double album in rock history. Zappa later formed [[Bizarre Records]] which featured LPs by the [[GTO's]], [[Wild Man Fischer]], and the first two [[Alice Cooper]] albums (he was Cooper's hero and the main reason Furnier moved from Phoenix to L.A.). Then [[Jim Guercio]], [[Dr. John]], [[Van Dyke Parks]], [[Lowell George]], [[Kim Fowley]], [[Aynsley Dunbar]], and many others recorded with him. Capt. Beefheart played and sang on Zappa's solo LP, '[[Hot Rats]].'
+In the high desert lands of California he became friends with [[Captain Beefheart|Don Van Vliet]], boy wonder. Both were composing in several media even before they were kicked out of high school. Zappa became the definitive freak, but he was never a hippie. He never took drugs, smoked weed only ten times, never took the easy bliss out, and this he wants to make perfectly clear. He listened to [[Howlin' Wolf]] and preferred [[Willie Mae Thornton]]'s version of "Hound Dog" to Presley's. Meanwhile Van Vliet listened to [[Al Jolson]] and continued the sculpture he began at age five. Van Vliet grew up and became Capt. Beefheart, named after the famous tomato that bulges to heroic proportions in the valleys. Beefheart and Zappa played dirty music together in 1962 – "very experimental stuff." Zappa made money on a filmscore venture and immediately turned it into a sound studio – "[[Studio Z|Z]]" in [[Cucamonga]], Ca. The first Mothers LP was '[[Freak Out!]]' in 1964, the first double album in rock history. Zappa later formed [[Bizarre Records]] which featured LPs by the [[GTO's]], [[Wild Man Fischer]], and the first two [[Alice Cooper]] albums (he was Cooper's hero and the main reason Furnier moved from Phoenix to L.A.). Then [[Jim Guercio]], [[Dr. John]], [[Van Dyke Parks]], [[Lowell George]], [[Kim Fowley]], [[Aynsley Dunbar]], and many others recorded with him. Capt. Beefheart played and sang on Zappa's solo LP, '[[Hot Rats]].'
 Beefheart formed the [[Magic Band]], and after cutting a record on ''Buddha'' went over to Zappa's [[DiscReet Records|DiscReet]] Label where he recorded the famous '[[Trout Mask Replica]].' Trouble. Beefheart had a beef. Claiming Zappa had produced it badly, Beefheart sued Zappa for alleged non-payment and other sins. Words were exchanged and then no words were exchanged and the friendship screeched to a dead halt.

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 No, I'd say it's the writers' fault.<br>
 '''I wouldn't have thought of that.<br>
-Figures. I can observe trends in rock 'n roll journalism that work in cycles. Certain things go on and off the charts in terms of the overall perspective of the favor of the rock 'n roll journalist. Like, things are seasonal, and become seasonal by virtue of publications that are assigning certain articles on certain things because of record company pressures and it all comes down to dollars and cents, none of it's for real. It's all jive. You guys are in the grind of turning out pseudo opinions about rock 'n roll music. None of it has anything to do with the music. Most of it has to do with the personalities of the people you're writing about. Most of it is fan mail-type stuff on one level or another. So when you talk about these trends in the music you're not talking about the music, it's just an interpretation being placed on it by people who never should have received a typewriter to begin with. I think it's about time people found out what's really going on in sports, rock 'n roll, politics – all of it. It's all been handled in such a stock way, in the most convenient way. It's time for a consumer outrage.
+Figures. I can observe trends in rock 'n roll journalism that work in cycles. Certain things go on and off the charts in terms of the overall perspective of the favor of the rock 'n roll journalist. Like, things are seasonal, and become seasonal by virtue of publications that are assigning certain articles on certain things because of record company pressures and it all comes down to dollars and cents, none of it's for real. It's all jive. You guys are in the grind of turning out pseudo opinions about rock 'n roll music. None of it has anything to do with the music. Most of it has to do with the personalities of the people you're writing about. Most of it is fan mail-type stuff on one level or another. So when you talk about these trends in the music you're not talking about the music, it's just an interpretation being placed on it by people who never should have received a typewriter to begin with. I think it's about time people found out what's really going on in sports, rock 'n roll, [[politics]] – all of it. It's all been handled in such a stock way, in the most convenient way. It's time for a consumer outrage.
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 '''What do you think your appeal is?<br>
-It's hard to determine. I think a lot of them thought my first album was [[Apostrophe (')]]. I went out and did a tour after that album came out, and they were convinced that that was the first album I ever made. Of course, on the other hand, we played Washington, D.C. and it was the year of our tenth anniversary and we were playing a lot of stuff from the [[Freak Out]] album, and the 13-year-old girls at that concert who were standing at the edge of the stage were squealing and when we played something from the Freak Out album they knew all the words. They would have had to be three-year-olds when that album came out. It was just weird.
+It's hard to determine. I think a lot of them thought my first album was [[Apostrophe (')]]. I went out and did a tour after that album came out, and they were convinced that that was the first album I ever made. Of course, on the other hand, we played Washington, D.C. and it was the year of our tenth anniversary and we were playing a lot of stuff from the [[Freak Out!]] album, and the 13-year-old girls at that concert who were standing at the edge of the stage were squealing and when we played something from the Freak Out album they knew all the words. They would have had to be three-year-olds when that album came out. It was just weird.
 '''Is one of your children named Moon Unit?<br>